Iran begins installing 6,000 new centrifuges

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  1. Razorofoccam

    Razorofoccam Banned

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    cadcruzer

    LOL
    I hear nothing. i see nothing i KNOW NOTHING.

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  2. Razorofoccam

    Razorofoccam Banned

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    Beginning to install 6000 centrifuges and actually doing it is a HUGE step
    Processing the material for nuclear weapons is something only very few countires have done. Its an awesome effort. acres of machinery running 24/7
    I DONT THINK IRAN CAN DO IT
    The cost is staggering
    I think The UK, India, France, Israel.. 'bought the weapons grade material.
    assembly is so much easier.
    We all know the manhattan project.. that was 95% processing.. 5% assembly
    The tall boy on hiroshima was a naval gun barrel with U-235 at each end... lol hardly a brainstrain.
    manhatten fed the world its bombs.
    the US Gnp is ~7 trillion
    it cost 1/3 of US output to do manhatten In '43-45'
    thats a trillion a year now. 3x the defence budget.
    Us, Uk , India, china, USSR ,France ,Israel [and im still not sure about israel.. [bought it?]
     
  3. wackyiraqi

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    Which is why it is important to keep countries that support terrorism from achieving the capability to produce weapons grade uranium. High tech circuitry and trigger systems are not necessary to produce a nuclear weapon. A uranium gun bomb can be made by just about anybody with HEU. It is no secret that Iran supports Hezbollah both financially and militarily, does anybody realize what the ramifications would be if the Israel/Palistine conflict became nuclear?
     
  4. Razorofoccam

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    wackyiraq..

    at last someone with a brain..
    All you need is to drive lump A down barrel to hit lump B
    boooom

    building the thing is a snap..
    Getting the fissionables is the problem..and always has been.
    this is why i say the huge fields of centerfuges, are the US domination.,, wow i just did wiki.. whole section on centerfuges is wiped.
    i got to 'Uranium processing where'
    and cant get further... homeland security on the job...
    good work guys...


    How could it become nuclear unless someone gave palistine a device?
    And why would any power block do so..
    Israel is a fierce beast. but only to enemies. a great friend in need.
    NO-one wants israel on their back. Even US would be afeared if israel went awol.
    They nearly blew it in yom kippur.. but wise hands held the wheel.
    Hands that knew military abillity.
    damascus would even now still be glowing in the dark//lol


    israel/palestine
    well, something has to fill the world news.
    if israel wanted they could simply push all over border into Egypt.
    would not that be fun...lol
    and probably the wisest thing to do.


     
  5. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Installing NEW centrifuges(they already had some running)3000 of them as of 11/07/2007 "Up And Running"
    Link Seems (they) made that HUGE step already, how could you have missed it?
    You think Iran is broke? they can easily afford it.
    I bet you didn't think Pakistan could either,they did. Remember (smiling buddha)
    It too k 2 Years to Manufacture.

    Israel yes, the rest no.
    The UK "produced" their own Pu-240 for (Operation Hurricane) in 1952, The UK is (more than capable) of producing their own "they don't need to buy".

    India "produced" and "manufactured" their own Plutonium device back in 1974 (they too or more than capable) .Smiling Buddha

    France has been(more than capable) since the 60's

    http://www.unitednuclear.com/



    anyone with a brain would have known that.
    Like Nantaz?
    Wow, ok. And who did they "buy" it from may i ask?
    ? was that in reference to my Sergeant Schultz pic (a few threads over)?
    Hans is Cool!

    Where do YOU get these numbers??
     
  6. Hiptastic

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    Building a nuclear reactor is no small task either, and they intend to do that.
     
  7. Razorofoccam

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    The UK "produced" their own Pu-240

    i stand corrected and thanks for the info. Ah Pu... what a bitch...
    u-235 is a bastard pu-240 is a bitch..lol

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  8. Razorofoccam

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    yep

    he owned a toy factory when he wasnt a sergent in german luftlande
    what a, cool dude
     
  9. Razorofoccam

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    Where do you get yours?
    In 2005 the US gdp was ~ 7 trillion. Gnp 9 not up to date but relative to say germany/japan at 3.5 trillion each fairly accurate
    do you contest these numbers?
    or are you argueing for arguements sake
    now your rocking dude.. i keep the deneuraliser downstairs next to the snow blower.




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    I just rode in recent news that there was agreement within MEA and Iran and some kind compromise if Iran with not exceed number of 6000 centrifuges. I think that for one working atomic plant they would need about 10 000 working centrifuges.
     
  12. Razorofoccam

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    LOL

    just means will take 40% longer to get same mass of fissionables.
    centrifuges make fuel...[fissionable mass]
    no more.

    reactor needs 'X' fuel. [stockpile and your on your way to a breeder]

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  14. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    UPDATE:

    4592 IR1 centrifuges enriching uranium.

    3716 IR1 centrifuges installed but not operational ,yet.

    8308 total.

    Iran is now testing a ten-machine cascade of IR-4 centrifuges, which might
    be a longer version of the IR-2 or IR-3. It also is testing a ten-machine
    cascade of what it calls IR-2m.
     
  15. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I question why we even fear their increase in nuclear power. Isn't that what US politicians and business men are telling us the US needs to do to deal with the energy crisis? Didn't McCain promote more nuclear power in the US? Or is it the interest of energy corporations we are more interested in?

    I'll begin to worry about Iran's capabilities when Israel dismantles Dimona.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/israel/dimona.htm
     
  16. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Could be the statement from AhMADinejad "wipe Israel off the map" but why should you worry..........

    No, US politicians and business men are NOT telling us we need to build a nuclear bomb so we can wipe Israel off the map,where did you here that?

    You still don't understand the difference between nuclear power and nuclear weapons, do you?

    The Negev Nuclear research center is getting old, I expect to see it decommissioned in the next 5-10 years.
     
  17. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    To be honest he’d be doing the world a favor; but we’d have to retaliate for our own peace of mind by bombing them back to the stone age [​IMG]



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  18. odon

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    To be fair, cadruzer...I don't think even AhMADinejad meant it literally, just politically and or technically...not physically.

    It isn't the fear of an increase in nuclear power, gardener.
    But the possibility that technology is being used in a manner even Iran has agreed it will not do...so I think bringing in Israel is a red-herring, and just an attempt to cloud the issue.
    If Iran is agreeing it will not proliferate nuclear weapons, and will not endeavor to create them...I think it fair that the WORLD gets annoyed when they appear to be breaking their own pledge (via the NPT).

    Many states have said they will HELP Iran to increase their nuclear POWER capabilities...that isn't the issue here.

    I think he does, he just doesn't wish to acknowledge it, as it will ruin his argument.
     
  19. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    You have several big fast spinning aluminum tubes.

    You suspend uranium (or plutonium) in them, in the top, you have the shit grade uranium\pu, un the bottom, you get the weapons grade\supergrade (the stuff at the top of the tube degrading enriches the stuff at the bottom of the tube, the high grade aluminum tubes make the whole system reasonably sealed)



    it's MUCH more complicated than that, but that's the explanation I'd give to second graders. I figured it was the one appropriate for Hf.....


    Ari, if you want a better one, Pm me.
     
  20. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    ^ JUST DROP A LINK YOU PRETENTIOUS ASS...:rolleyes:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifuge
     

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