Iran begins installing 6,000 new centrifuges

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  1. TGRR

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    All you've done is color the facts, as far as the IAEA goes, in exactly the same manner Bush tried to do, before he got caught at it...in the same attempt to change opinions with facts that just aren't so.

    So you'll excuse me if you come across looking like a Bushie.
     
  2. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    The exact same thing is being offered to Iran, a pay off of technology and nuclear fuel.


    [QUOTEAll you've done is color the facts, as far as the IAEA goes] [/QUOTE]You said it twice, but you have failed to prove it.

    Dictator Sympathizer's always make these claims.
     
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    Iran has chosen not to accept our most generous offer though, as is their right as a sovereign nation. It seems that they prefer to make their own fuel. Now it is very possible that they have something else in mind...but you're going to have to prove that. After all, as I've said, we've heard this joke before.
     
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    Yes, actually I did, thanks for acknowledging that. You have yet to post anything from the IAEA that shows that they believe Iran is actually working on a weapon at this time, or in the recent past.

    Reduced to the ad hominem attack already? You lose.

    And I had such high hopes for you.
     
  5. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    You think Mahmouds claim of 6000 new centrifuges, as more Bushy propaganda?
     
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    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    You have short memory?
     
  7. TGRR

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    Nope. But those centerfuges could be used for either weapons or fuel.

    Last time we jumped the gun, it cost us 4000 dead and 30,000 wounded for no apparent purpose.

    Find some proof of wrongdoing, and maybe I'll be interested. Until then, this is just more of the same.
     
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    Nope. Stating that you come across as a Bushie, based on behavior demonstrated (the deliberate fabrication or mis-stating of the IAEA's words)is a little different than stating that one is a "dictator's sympathyzer", simply because you have no actual argument (ie, you could not back up your claims concerning the IAEA).

    One is a statement of opinion based on a point of order, and the other is an ad hominem attack.
     
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    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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  10. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    AGAIN, JUST because you say it over and over doent make it true.


    WHERE HAVE I DONE THIS??
     
  11. TGRR

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    Yes, they "still cannot determine".

    This is not the same thing as them saying "we believe they have a weapons program"...quite the opposite, in fact.

    You are approaching this from an angle of "they must prove their innocence" (although they are under no obligation to do so), and as I've said, the last time we went that route has resulted in an unmitigated disaster.

    Lack of exculpatory evidence does not constitute evidence of guilt.

    You should know that by now.
     
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    The last post you made, right before this one, where you claim that the IAEA's lack of exculpatory evidence is the same as having evidence against Iran.
     
  13. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    And who is saying that?

    Im approaching this from what comes out of Mahmouds mouth, nothing else.
     
  14. TGRR

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    Besides Bush, over and over again? Well, I don't know. What is the point of this thread?

    What was the point of all posts you made on page 1 about Iran having nukes?

    If you aren't claiming that they have a weapons program, then exactly what is your point?

    Apparently, you're also approaching this from what you wish was coming out of the IAEA's mouth, too.
     
  15. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Here's the "point" more like a question, but whatever.
    I NEVER made ANY claims of Iran Having Nukes, on any page.
     
  16. TGRR

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    So, basically it was just a Socratic troll, then?

    Is that what you're saying?
     
  17. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Sure, by asking a simple question like

    You do make a good point there , i should have included a poll too.
    btw, this isn't the first time i've been compared to Socrates. thx

    Do you think your participation in this thread is to debate? i dont think so....
     
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    Double post. Deleted.
     
  19. TGRR

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    Actually, being compared to Socrates isn't a compliment: Basically, your entire thread was a display of passive/aggressive bullshit, as the hippies would say. In more direct terms, you make implications, but you lack the stones to actually state your case. It's kind of pathetic, really.

    And my participation HAS been to debate. The fact that I proved you incorrect about the IAEA by using fact instead of dishonest insinuations may hurt your feelings, but it doesn't change anything factual about the subject.
     
  20. cadcruzer

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    I've stated my case many times, i think you may have been hit in the head with a few too many stones tho.
    You havent proven ANYTHING???? WTF are you talking about
     
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