Iq's Correlation With Religiocity, Income, And Violence

Discussion in 'Psychology and Sociology of Modern Society' started by Nerdanderthal, Dec 1, 2014.

  1. thedope

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    Even your overt physical proportions can grow according to consistent use. For example the deformed feet of wine pressers or the physique of the body builder.
     
  2. Nerdanderthal

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    I hold onto hate for no man or group. Australian Aborigines, Africans, Arabs, Hispanics, Eskimos, Europeans or Asians. I do not know how you come to the conclusion that I am racist. I am committed to truth and data. Science in this area has been repeatedly criticized and studies shut down. I ask you, which truths should we hide? Where should rational discourse be stifled? When is free speech too free?

    I am one of the least violent people you'll ever meet and I am not an advocate of any form of hate. Let me be clear, the Nazis and anyone engaging in coersion of genocide are to be despised. This is evil in its purest form. Zionist assholes are engaging in the slow genocide of the Palestenians right now at this moment. I'm very outspoken against them.

    None of this changes the fact that intelligence and civilized behavior is HUGELY hereditary and people of low intelligence are having wayyyy more children than people of high intelligence. You KNOW this sir. You're certainly not dim. From this perspective I can see few options.

    A. Resign ourselves to taking an intellectual hit and let people of lower intelligence and higher religion become the vast majority of the planet.
    B. Encourage some sort of voluntary reward for people of high intelligence having more kids and people of less intelligence having less kids.
    C. Embark on a Hitlerian genocidal spree and eliminate everyone save a few Jews, Germans and Japanese.

    Obviously C. is the worst possible scenario and we should do everything in our power to prevent it. A. is perhaps right on the heels of C. and could very well lead to similar levels of suffering. B. is the obvious answer at this point in time, but more possible solutions is what I'm after, and whether we find a D. solution or decide B. is best for now, the rational discussion starts here. That's the discussion I want to have. Shouting RACIST at me is not only false, but will impede any possible progress we can make and reduce our chances of finding a creative solution.
     
  3. Nerdanderthal

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    I very much so want to believe in epigenetics. I'm waiting for more data but it's certainly cause for hope.

    That being said I don't see a ton of progress taking place in hip hop culture. Whether it's cause by evil jews or evil white people or neither, access to the internet is rampant but the people of Ferguson seem to be neglecting it as a source of learning. I'm SURE there are black people in Ferguson who work hard on reasoning and philosophy but it is not the norm and it shows on tests and in schools. It seems clear that dysgenics is overpowering any epigenetic progress.

    I've been thinking about epigenetics for years now and try to live in a way that my future kids would be proud of. It seems clear though that successfully delaying gratification and reasoning your way into long term positive habits is largely a product of being able to reason well in the first place.
     
  4. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Yeah, but most of what you say it typically racist and not science.
    This;

    "None of this changes the fact that intelligence and civilized behavior is HUGELY hereditary and people of low intelligence are having wayyyy more children than people of high intelligence. You KNOW this sir. You're certainly not dim. From this perspective I can see few options.

    A. Resign ourselves to taking an intellectual hit and let people of lower intelligence and higher religion become the vast majority of the planet.
    B. Encourage some sort of voluntary reward for people of high intelligence having more kids and people of less intelligence having less kids.
    C. Embark on a Hitlerian genocidal spree and eliminate everyone save a few Jews, Germans and Japanese."

    is absolutely ludicrous and stupid.
    If those are the only options you can come up with, you are either trolling the forums or are in possession of an IQ similar to a Kalahari bushman, according to your sources.

    Wouldn't a better option be to provide proper nutrition and education to those people and bring the planets average IQ up?

    As I read between the lines of your communications, it is apparent you harbor racist sentiments and your ideas are the very seed of the atrocities you condemn.

    basically your full of crap.
     
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  5. NoxiousGas

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    you post shit like this and yet claim to not be racist???

    what a joke
     
  6. Nerdanderthal

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    you're full of crap*

    You're not forming any analytical arguments man, you just attack my character. Ad hominem assaults are not going to help anyone make any progress. I'm basically asking you to help me fill out this multiple choice list.

    Giving proper nutrition and education opportunities to people with an IQ of 70 or 80 will not linearly increase their IQs, and at best they will continue to lag wayyyy behind the top of the pack and be mad and disgruntled about their comparitively low status. People in Ferguson are mad as fuck and it's because they're not economically successful while the surrounding area is.

    What exactly is wrong with B. assuming everything is 100% voluntary?
     
  7. Nerdanderthal

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    I sincerely believe Asians outperform Europeans on IQ tests, and Europeans outperform Africans on IQ tests. Does this make me racist?
     
  8. NoxiousGas

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    You have been doing a pretty good job of painting yourself as racist, you don't need my help.

    Giving proper nutrition to the pregnant mothers and their children and providing those children with educational opportunities is what I meant, and you fucking know it, you just wanted to throw out another ludicrous and asinine statement that you think is intelligent.

    Basically your interpretation of the data is skewed and in error, as I already pointed out in my first post, and the study that map came from isn't very solid and makes many assumptions and dubious extrapolations, nor is it supported by peers, but I'm sure you simply claim it's because people are "afraid" of the topic...
    BULLSHIT!!
    that study wasn't well received because it's bullshit science that stretches to support it's hypothesis.
    Did you even read it??
     
  9. Tyrsonswood

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    If you believe ALL Asians out perform Europeans, and ALL Europeans out perform Africans ... Yeah that would be racist.
     
  10. Nerdanderthal

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    People want to cling to their egalitarian views, do you not get that?

    I would love nothing more than to see a Black Einstein or a Black Isaac Newton. Seriously. What I'm after is progress. I don't want the planet to die in a horrible comet collision that we're obviously not currently ready for. We need high IQ people to procreate.
     
  11. Nerdanderthal

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    I was speaking statistically, of course there are outliers. 14% of black people score over 100 on IQ tests. Myron Rolle is a Rhode Scholar from FSU that started for a great football team. He's a super smart black dude and physcially elite to boot.
     
  12. Tyrsonswood

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    Statistics are not reality
     
  13. Nerdanderthal

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    Excuse me? Statistics are evidence of a larger picture. We can't make public policy based on anecdotal evidence. Statistics is




    1. the practice or science of collecting and analyzing numerical data in large quantities, especially for the purpose of inferring proportions in a whole from those in a representative sample.




    It's closer to the reality of the world than your anecdotal experience. What a huge logical misstep on your part.

    I'm not saying black people can't be smarter than white people or white people smarter than asians. There are exceptions that prove the rule, and the rule is dictated by statistics.
     
  14. Tyrsonswood

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    You're excused...
     
  15. Nerdanderthal

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    I think perhaps I won't be able to convince the huddled masses to admit what's right in front of them. Maybe only HighQ people can be perpetually reasonable and The New World Order is correct in assuming extermination is the only remedy.

    There was a way to coax the numbers through public policy and weight them in favor of the survival of humanity! There was a way through massaging family sizes ordered by cognitive ability! But you couldn't be reasoned with, you refused to face facts, you continually appealed to emotion to appease your feelies. Eh who are we kidding you never had a chance.
     
  16. Tyrsonswood

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    Hey.... At least I never had kids, right?
     
  17. NoxiousGas

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    LOL......

    so genius, what be your number?
    I'm technically a "genius" if we go by IQ's, as are a number of folks who participated in this fiasco of a thread, so yet again your assumptions and conclusions are in error.
     
  18. NoxiousGas

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    oh and may I point out that you never actually touched on the points in the threads title;
    religiosity and violence.
    I guess you also just make assumptions about the correlation between those factors and IQ as you and the authors of that study did concerning economics.
     
  19. thedope

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    The mammalian brain rides on top of the lizard brain which came from finny flakes. It is diversification that ensures longevity or progression over time, not specialization.
     
  20. BlackBillBlake

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    As I suspected. Especially assigning IQ scores to untested countries.

    I agree that really it comes down to education. But also, the skill set required to live in Africa is not the same as to live in a modern western country.
     

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