Intervention in Libya but not Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nunnies, Jun 19, 2014.

  1. nunnies

    nunnies Member

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    ...I didn't follow the crisis in Libya when Mu'ammar Gaddafi was overthrown and I don't know everything about those events, but I would like to ask why was Western military intervention OK to stop evil in Libya, but it is not OK to stop evil in Ukraine?...
     
  2. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    Because Putin is not the crazy colonel. Size does matter.
     
  3. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    They are different 'evil's, although I would not call it simply evil. Different situations. And different situations ask for different approaches.

    Anyway, perhaps it wasn't ok in Libya either. Or maybe intervention was ok, but to a certain limit only ;) And.. OK according to who? Perhaps that would also give insight in why there isn't 'western military intervention' in Ukraine.
     
  4. nunnies

    nunnies Member

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    Maybe you can help me see how the situation was "different." In both situations there were people in the countries who didn't like their leadership and people who did. The West decided to militarily intervene in Libya but the West doesn't want to intervene in Ukraine.

    The Ukrainian people are crying out for help but the West is hesitant to get involved:
     
  5. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    apples and giant oranges


    you cant compare helping one side of a civil war to helping a tiny little untrained army against one of the largest superpowers in the world
     
  6. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Is there oil in the Ukraine? I don't know, so I am asking this question.
     
  7. nunnies

    nunnies Member

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    I don't know about Ukraine's resources but as far as I know there was a civil war in Libya over Libyan leadership and the West intervened. Why wont the West intervene to help the Ukrainians?
     
  8. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    oil gas nickel iron coal...the list goes on and on


    in other words yes...ukraine has great natural resources


    ...thats why russia wants it back
     
  9. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Enough to make the US interested in helping itself to it? lol
     
  10. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    There's a big pipeline that runs through Ukraine from Russia that supply's not only Ukraine with all their natural gas, but 16% of EU's consumption too.
    Russia now wants Ukraine to pre-pay for all their gas, that's gonna put the squeeze on some folks...

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-16/ukraine-faces-russian-gas-cutoff-as-payment-talks-fail.html
     
  11. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    Perhaps the 'evil in Ukraine' is not what you have been led to believe by mainstream media.
     
  12. AmericanTerrorist

    AmericanTerrorist Bliss

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    Quite simply it doesn't matter because the US really doesn't want to and really is not going to mess with or get into a war with Russia.
     
  13. nunnies

    nunnies Member

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    Peace BlackBillBlake,

    Lol Putin invaded Crimea and the West did NOTHING (militarily)...who did Gaddafi invade?
     
  14. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    gaddhafi took down airplanes

    he blatantly invaded citizens of many countries


    also trying to kill george bush senior was kind of a dumb move
     
  15. nunnies

    nunnies Member

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    Peace BBAD,

    No disrespect intended but that sounds like a lot of propaganda. Can you give any serious references (not necessarily internet references because people can put anything on the internet)?

    I have heard that there was a conflict between Libya and Chad that may have started when part of Chad that was originally intended by the countries colonizers to be part of Libya was never given to the Libyans, but Putin just invaded Crimea because he felt like it if I'm not mistaken and the West did NOTHING lololololol.
     
  16. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    What's with the lols? You made your mind up then?
     
  17. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    is it really considered invading when 95% of them greet you with open arms?
     
  18. nunnies

    nunnies Member

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    Peace,

    It just struck me as funny how cowardly the West can be but I guess it's not really funny.

    Made my mind up about what?
     
  19. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    About that the (lack of) motive was cowardice.
     
  20. nunnies

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    Crimea was part of Ukraine and under Ukrainian control so yes it was an invasion of Ukraine and the West did nothing militarily lolololol.

    They wanted to intervene in the dissatisfaction among Libyans with their leader. Why don't they want to intervene in Ukraine lololol?...
     

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