Intelligence is overrated.

i don't think the big bang makes any claims about where the initial, super hot, super dense, ball of matter that contained our universe came from. it certainly doesn't claim that it "came from nothing." as you said, that would violated basic laws of thermodynamics.

science doesn't think of it like this. i guarantee.

no it does not! scientists actively TRY to disprove hypotheses. if you have a hard time disproving it, you are accumulating evidence in favor of it.

science IS questioning things.

this is a load of shit dude. seriously. a big fucking load of shit. PURE SHIT. did you get that?

science ISN'T a religion. saying that is ignorant.

sure, it is politically driven in some instances. but there are distinctions between big pharma science, and academic research science. academics rely on the government for funding, but other than that it's not very politically driven. we are actually stifled by politics, because we get way less funding than science used to get in the past. i've not met many scientists that are pleased with current political policy. i don't know anyone who is doing research that is meant to control people.

you are talking out of your ass rat. i guess that's why i called it shit.

and yet again....

science DOES NOT explain everything. but it also does not purport to. if it did....science would be done. we wouldn't have to do science anymore, because we would know everything. that will never happen. science gets it wrong a lot. but if we do it well, we get closer to the truth if we keep going.

also, scientists are still actively searching out the answers to our origins.


fucking complaining about everything all the time doesn't do shit!!



and just to finish off my rant...

hipstudent, i bet i'm smarter than you are. you just sound like a pretentious ass, thinking you're smarter than everyone else. you're so smart that you can't interact with "normal" people? maybe they don't want to interact with you because your head is too far up your own ass.

 

First question of significance is which IQ test did you take?
There are myriad ones floating around and they can yield quite different results from the same individual.
Overall I would say that if it were one of the major standardized tests, there was an error in the scoring of your test.
You exhibit nowhere near a level of comprehension or communicative ability that would indicate an IQ of 162. That's pretty high, ranking up with some of histories greats.
I'm not trying to be demeaning or anything, I'm just thinking that being an educated person with an IQ that high would reflect in your writing and expounding of ideas, both of which are woefully lacking in your communications via this site.


Take your understanding concerning the Big Bang. It doesn't state that everything came from nothing, just that everything at some point was all condensed into one thing at one point. By virtue of the way space-time functions it is impossible for us to ever know what existed prior to the initial event known as the Big Bang.
Simple shit Maynard.

Now there are many forms and manifestations of intelligence, as the numerous savants that have been documented throughout history has shown, and not all conform to the "norm", but it is far from the conspiracy laden plots and plans that plague Pressed Rats existence.

So, to better understand what you are communicating, which IQ test did you take?

 

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LOL, you posted this while I was typing my response. :2thumbsup:

 

Not really, it can be perfectly well explained. Religion has hold back advancement for a long time. There are a multitude of people now compared to the olden days. Science. A few inventions that set off a chain of new technology. Wars. Democracy, capitalism. Etc. etc.

 

The boost comes from the chain of technology that is set off. It accelerates. Very simple and logic :2thumbsup:

"We stand on the shoulders of our predecessors" :sunny:

 

Ahhh noxiousgas.. haven't you trolled me before starting meaningless arguments?
Idk the name of the test ill ask my professor on Tuesday. Just like i told you the last time you started a rant on me you have no clue as to my level of comprehension on anything because your not me. Although i think your previous rant was over some computer shit where you told me i "couldnt comprehend" when you couldnt comprehend the actual topic of the thread being the company of apple not the computer parts.

This isnt my writing, this is my typing. Its meant to be read once, quickly, and easily assessed by anyone who reads it in order to take in my point of view on a subject. Maybe i am woefully lacking in writing and expounding of ideas my excuse would be that im 22 years old and i type and text daily to many people in simple conversation. Maybe when my best friends turn into Mark Twain, in a few weeks when we've shared a few thousand texts Ill come across as a noxiousgas approved genius.

Also ill look into the big bang theory more. I was under this impression the last times it was explained to me by mediocre teachers.

 

^^fair enough. sorry for being a little harsh

 

As far as I'm concerned, one of the fundamental assumptions of natural science is "skepticism." Scientists cannot ever stop seeking new knowledge. Nothing is every "proven."

Raw science is not out to indoctrinate people or prove a universal truth. It is about constantly seeking new knowledge and re-evaluating old new ideas. If a certain sect of scientists alters their outcomes to fit a certain government agenda, then they are not scientists.

I'm not saying that scientists have the answer to every question. They don't. That is the territory of religion. I see nothing inherently harmful with scientific thought.

And OP, there are many, many happy, successful and intelligent people. There are also many miserable ones. Being a genius (if you are one--but I don't think geniuses take IQ tests so seriously) is not a sentence for an unhappy life.

 

^^^can't give rep

 

I had a deep thought outside tonght. Maybe we are not the birth of another universe...but the waste product of it...I know this is not a romantic thought, but....look at this hell on earth sometimes.

 

The universe is quite a bit bigger than Earth.

 

Of course, it is....who said it wasn't?

 

Maybe the rest of the universe is heaven and just Earth is hell.

 

Maybe.....

 

Can you think of a better motivation to make this little planet a better place than the thought of universal paradise just beyond our reach?

 

Dude, calm down, chill, relax. :afro:

I guess you never clued in on the fact that I was totally fucking around with you in half the stuff in our previous exchange, especially concerning psychedelics.

Anywho you have illustrated a growing problem in today's technology centric world with lightning fast communication, people have lost the ability to communicate effectively in written form. This isn't an indictment against you specifically, but rather a trend that is quickly becoming problematic as kids aren't barely taught the basics before they are shoved out the door with a HS diploma, and that trend often continues into college.
Just because you text and type to friends daily doesn't provide an excuse for poor written communication, in fact if anything it should be honing those skills not causing them to decay.

All I'm saying is if you are claiming a score of 162, well, your communications just don't infer that level of intelligence, at least not in a modern industrialized society in which you, at your own admission, have been provided with adequate educational opportunities at your disposal and of which you are taking advantage.

Now if you were a member of the Yanomami or similar, I could understand.



Do you comprehend that?

 

I'd write out a full response, but I'm tired. So I'll do one again.

Anyway, the difference between a 160 IQ person and a 125 IQ person is the same as a 125 person and a 90 person.

Its like retards telling intelligent people what to do.

I think two phenomenon cause this.

1stly, the education system has major flaws in terms of teaching people HOW to learn and harness intelligence.
This is excerbated by the fact that most super-intelligent people seem to be branded "Attention Deficit Disorder" (and therefore taught in a way that is effectively bizarre for them).

Secondly, high skill jobs etc are often filled by croneyism rather than merit. And organisations are governed by influential rather than ability led groups.

However, in answer, I would say that intelligence is massively UNDER-rated. Its society's fault, not smart people's.

 

Im calm, and I realize your "fucking around" trying to start meaningless arguments with people. I dont see why replys should be any different if your "fucking around" or serious. I guess you didnt pick up the sarcasm in my "excuse" for poor written communication.

Gonna point out two facts.

First there are a lot of people more intelligent than me who can hardly communicate at all, I dont see what communication skills have to do with, well anything but bragging rights?

Secondly I dont know your level of education but your writing would surely be an F. Its what one of my professors would call a hamburger with a lot of lettuce, a lot of tomato, a lot of mayonnaise, mustard, ketchup and pickles, but no meat.

Im truly a person who rarely minds a discussion. However your sole intent in reading what is typed in reply is to build your next rant. Therefore Im no longer going to reply to you. Your close-minded. You assume things about people you have no clue of. Your not Sherlock Holmes man.

Have a good night trying to start shit with people on hip forums man im out for now.
Peace.

Oo just gonna add incase you didnt know what i was talking about when i commented on your writing. I dont mind it, In fact its how i along with most smart people would prefer to read, however most people arent as smart as us. Yes i admit your not stupid. I just dont like you to be honest. What is taught in my college courses is that you need to write in much more simple terms. If your a lawyer yes expand your vocabulary as far as you can. Do you know why? Because you want whoever is reading your letter to not know what the fuck your talking about. However i am just a Junior and have yet to meet a professor who will pass me by doing this.
Most people end up with much simpler jobs. So when your boss says hey write a summary of this new product for customers to read. Its something that majority of the population will actually want to quickly read and have no problem understanding.
College isnt teaching us how to be writers. Its teaching us how to become corporate zombies.

 

Interesting view i hadnt thought about that yet. However i dont disprove of cronyism honestly because people usually want to be around others similar to themselves. If i was a boss i would probably hire a friend over a slightly more qualified candidate while at the same time I would probably apply to work for a friend, family member, over a slightly higher quality job.

And im slightly behind your "ADD" theory not sure of my views on it yet
Im sure you may have heard of adderall the "add" drug all the kids are on. Well if you have add it really comes you down so i hear. If you dont... that shits some speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed! Like half of my friends have it prescribed all you gotta do if go to the doctor and say im a college student. I have trouble focusing. Bam couple 100 bucks later you got a script for adderall.. That shits legit though i take it myself if i need the motivation, to write a long ass paper, study for a test, stay up for 40 hours, etc. lol Its like steroids for your brain.