Indigo Children!

Okay Dormouse, that's it... you're the first one into the cooking pot when the Indigo kids take over the world. I hope you're happy.

 

hehehe! human blood sacrifice and (symbolic) ritual cannibalism worked out well for the Christians. anything for The Cause, i guess.


but seriously, i can empathize with the desire to distinquish oneself from the milling mass of billions of fellow humans. one can feel lost in the crowd so sometimes there's an impulse to grab any crown offered and then to place it on ones own brow, even if it's made of tin foil. it's shiny. isn't it? but this Indigo Child thing especially annoys me. the OP mentions the disempowering of the "fundies" while at the same time buying into yet another elitist spiritual concept . the Indigo Child meme is just the "chosen people syndrome" repackaged for new agers. it's certainly no evolutionary progress to repeat the same obsolete social survival tactic. our species is killing itself and the planet we live on due entirely to egotism, the need to aquire status in a hierarchy. how base primate behavior can you get? i find continueing the stupidity intolerable.

oooooo hey! i'm empathic and i find stupidy intolerable. i must be an "Indigo Child"!!! be impresed and kiss my toes! i'm gonna save the world!

 

I grok.

 

hmm a lot of conservatives these days seem to be very maudlin, sentimentality oriented, I don't see that conservatism is based in logic. They might not be very softhearted toward others but emotions certainly led to their ideology.

Didn't many if not most hippies of the 60's become so because it was trendy and they wanted to party recklessly, giving lip service to the concepts of free love and peace without really tuning into that vibe? We saw many hippes grow up as you say and treat their hippie past as youthful indiscretions, but for them it always had been youthful indiscretions. I think they actually deep down bought into straight culture's definition of them as foolish and destructive to good society, so they changed later on. The ones who, dare I say it "got it" in the first place did not "wise up" and become conservative, but found real-world application of hippie values like modern ecology, PC's.

As for the indigo concept, yeah it seems elitist, but when I think about it it's not really more so than others, except perhaps a more brazen and honest form. The 60's hippies had the same prediction that the old folks would die out and they would have the power, but once they got of age they found they weren't much different. Natural generational cycle? Maybe, but Europe found a way to be adults and still be liberal, maybe the US will eventually figure it out. I do agree that the human race as a whole seems to mature more as time goes on.

Sure I fit everything on that list except one or two items, but I don't really think it means anything except I'm sorta quirky. But it's not one of those lists that most everyone will identify with. Clairvoyance, OBE's, aware of parallel realities...maybe not gifted but definitely not typical.

 

oh fer sure i'm more "conservative" if conservative means that i'm no longer expecting Jesus to leap out of the clouds or UFOs to appear on the horizon to save the world from stupid human avarice. for a generation to recognize that one day they will be in charge is normal, as normal as it is for humans to create hierarchies and elitist groupings. yeah, it's normal, normal because it's instinctual primate behavior evolved for the survival of small troops, which is not working well as our numbers increase and all the billions of little primates jocky for position. (of course our increasing population is due to base instinct too). so in order for humans to truly evolve we'd be tending toward a different species behavior pattern, one that isn't based in competition for status. the elitist Indigo Child concept is a continuation of the same normal instinctual behavior so not progessive evolution at all. evolution is environmentally pressured and we better make some kind of leap into self awareness and self control as a species or ... well ... **shrug** .

maybe the UFOs will show up.

 

yeah ... until waiting fills.

 

"Maudlin and sentimentality oriented"? Give me some examples.

I guess the discussion depends on your definition of conservative and liberal.

A lot of the people who followed after the hippies were simply looking for a good time, but people can party recklessly without adopting a completely different ideology. No, the hippies represented a dramatic rebellion against the rigid attitudes of the 50's. That didn't make them either conservative or liberal in their politics, it just meant that they didn't agree with a lot of what their parents and government felt was proper. Many of the hippies went on to start or join communes and *that* was a declaration of liberalism and the concept of equal distribution of the wealth (in this case, wealth being food and shelter). The communes only really worked if they also had an equal distribution of the labor. Sometimes, communes broke up because some people got a little more equal distribution than others, meaning they didn't carry their load of the work.

A lot of the people who came out of those experiments learned to be more conservative by experience. I think that's what Churchill meant by his statement. Age and maturity teaches conservativism. (and I'm not talking about the political definitions of those terms.)

 

Glenn Beck for one lol. since he has so many adorers it seems those conservatives share his emotionalism in politics. But I was talking political conservatism, not social, so I guess we were on different pages there.

 

Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh... those guys are just entertainers. They act emotional because it gets them market shares and sells advertising. If people didn't tune in, that crap would go away.