In you're opinion, which of these drugs causes the most brain damage?

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  1. PsychMyke

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  2. PsychMyke

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    are you serious bro...

    when i was smoking i was blazing a quarter a day and my lungs were sooooo fucked up. I was coughing up chunks of black, even spots of blood at one point. I was hawkin up phlem all day for years. And Ive never smoked cigarettes. While weed doesnt have as many carcinogens like cigarettes, it contains about 5x the tar that tobacco has. And weed doesnt make you smarter...it does prevent alzheimers but your glamorizing the effect like theres no tomorrow. Preventing alzheimers has nothing to do with gaining intelligence. People who smoke weed chronically have a horrible short term memory and they are slow on the draw mentally, they have no motivation and they eat way too much food. Not like thats a bad thing, i was a pothead for a long time, and its great...i love weed. But saying its HEALTHY is stretchin it man. It might be safe in drug standards, but its definatly not healthy. Eating vegetables is healthy...blazing weed all day is not.
     
  3. HoodHop

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    nitrous oxide (inhalants)
     
  4. seanydizzle

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    smoking weed on occasion actually does help with asthma, i used to be asthmetic, but ever since i started smoking once or twice a month it went away (and it still away even though i dont smoke anymore). on top of that, my grandma used to give my aunt weed when she was aobut 6 because she had asthma, it cleared up (that was advice from her doctor). as for smoking it everyday, its obviously going to mess up your lungs.
     
  5. mr.mescalito

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    I dont like this poll, you shouldn't of put *nitrous oxide (inhalants)*, now people get the image that nitrous causes brain damage. Nitrous is very harmless if you take it smartly and don't keep a mask strapped around your face or forget to breathe oxygen. The only reason it can be considered harmful is for people who take about a can of canisters per day because it'll create a B12 deficit. Other than that, its all about abuse.
    If you consider this poll , "which of these drugs, taken only ONCE, causes the most brain damage?" I would say LSD, not for physical brain damage, but mostly for intense change in psychological perception, if physical brain damage, probably meth.
     
  6. freediver

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    I'm not sure why meth gets such a bad name seeing as how its a VERY close analogue of amphetamine(adderoll) and probably exerts itself in almost the exact mechanism. sure if u take a high dose that can cause damage maybe as can tons of legal prescrip drugs. and street shit has so many carcinogens, very acidic contents, and harmful byproducts from makers that these things are probably a big source. I have never touched the shit but just saying.\

    Exatacy given in high doeses to rats was show to cause changes in the neurons shape not sure if this was while still on the drug or long afterward. But these changes we not observed in the same doses when mdma was followed with prozac. Once again all the impurities in mdma tabs are whats making studies on "xtc" users brains not representative.

    The sad truth is that we don't know alot about drug effects on our brains. With the technology we have nowdays we could know alot more if studies get done but nobody does, probably because it will come out that certain drugs don't cause any problems
     
  7. Share the Warmth

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    Weed is one of the safest drugs you can put in you. Safer than aspirin. A HUNDRED times safer than alcohol, which you can actually overdose on and quite easily too.

    Anyone who tells you that pot will damage your brain is trying to scare you. Why? Because the system wants them to. And why does the system want people afraid of pot?

    Because people who smoke pot have a better chance of realizing what a crock of shit all of this is. The system would prefer for you to drink booze and smoke cigarettes. Keeps you satiated, dumb, and weak.
     
  8. otb01

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    A tie between meth, coke and crack.
     
  9. otb01

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    Btw, that pill testing website has found pills with coke. http://www.ecstasydata.org/results....cocaine&OldSort=DTD&NewSort=&SField=Substance

    5 to be precise.

    And one with Heroin

    http://www.ecstasydata.org/results....=heroin&OldSort=DTD&NewSort=&SField=Substance

    Two with fentanyl

    http://www.ecstasydata.org/results....entanyl&OldSort=DTD&NewSort=&SField=Substance

    Ex is cut a lot of the time. Btw, testing with a reagent doesn't always prove that there arent impurities. Even dancesafe says that just because the reagent will give a positive for MDMA it does not mean that there isnt any other stuff in there.
     
  10. Lecarick

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    Brain damage with X is not as profound as people think. However, the damage that does occur happens when your body runs out of serotonin and fills those receptor sites with dopamine, which damages them. So, if you take E and roll a few times a year, it likely won't be a noticeable effect. However, if you roll twice a month or more, you are damaging your brains ability to propperly use the chemical it needs to make you feel happy... so, understand doing E every weekend or for multiple days in a row, is leading you toward a permanant depression and serotonin problem (because you can make it, but now your brain can't utilize it)

    That being said, I do love a good roll every now and then. I suggest combining with a healthy amount of 5-htp and if you also have it, try with Ghb, as it does seem to totally negate the hangover the next day, and boost the roll (I suspect it has charactersistics that promote the production of serotonin)
     
  11. bandbeyondescription

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    yeah i dont know much either but inhalants are the worst. :) ;)
     
  12. Colimon

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    Meth will completely obliterate your brain. Will all those things you're inhaling when you're doing it, it really jsut messes your head up. I think it's the most dangerous and mind changing drug out there.
     
  13. Share the Warmth

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    are you serious bro...

    when i was smoking i was blazing a quarter a day and my lungs were sooooo fucked up. I was coughing up chunks of black, even spots of blood at one point. I was hawkin up phlem all day for years. And Ive never smoked cigarettes. While weed doesnt have as many carcinogens like cigarettes, it contains about 5x the tar that tobacco has. And weed doesnt make you smarter...it does prevent alzheimers but your glamorizing the effect like theres no tomorrow. Preventing alzheimers has nothing to do with gaining intelligence. People who smoke weed chronically have a horrible short term memory and they are slow on the draw mentally, they have no motivation and they eat way too much food. Not like thats a bad thing, i was a pothead for a long time, and its great...i love weed. But saying its HEALTHY is stretchin it man. It might be safe in drug standards, but its definatly not healthy. Eating vegetables is healthy...blazing weed all day is not.

    When I say smoking, I don't mean a quarter a day, I mean a few times a week. Anything can be taken to excess, even smoking pot.

    But lemme tell you, if you were drinking as much as you were smoking, or taking that much aspirin, or pretty much any other drug, you would have serious permanent ailments because of it. Weed will not mess you up permanently, even if you do smoke every day (granted a lifetime of smoking every day will eventually take its toll on your lungs of course). It can take over your life and screw up your short term memory of course, which is why I use it in moderation.

    I mean I smoke ocassionally and I am one of the most observant, quickest thinking people I know. And I have become more observant and perceptive after starting pot than I ever was before. Smoking taught me to really focus and tune in to my surroundings in a way I didn't even know I could do. It's helped me to conquer my fear of heights, gave me a better sense of muscle awareness, and has rekindled my burning desire to learn. Every time I blaze up (once a week usually) I learn something new about myself or my surroundings.

    Pot can really help you if you use it correctly.
     
  14. Share the Warmth

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    are you serious bro...

    when i was smoking i was blazing a quarter a day and my lungs were sooooo fucked up. I was coughing up chunks of black, even spots of blood at one point. I was hawkin up phlem all day for years. And Ive never smoked cigarettes. While weed doesnt have as many carcinogens like cigarettes, it contains about 5x the tar that tobacco has. And weed doesnt make you smarter...it does prevent alzheimers but your glamorizing the effect like theres no tomorrow. Preventing alzheimers has nothing to do with gaining intelligence. People who smoke weed chronically have a horrible short term memory and they are slow on the draw mentally, they have no motivation and they eat way too much food. Not like thats a bad thing, i was a pothead for a long time, and its great...i love weed. But saying its HEALTHY is stretchin it man. It might be safe in drug standards, but its definatly not healthy. Eating vegetables is healthy...blazing weed all day is not.

    When I say smoking, I don't mean a quarter a day, I mean a few times a week. Anything can be taken to excess, even smoking pot.

    But lemme tell you, if you were drinking as much as you were smoking, or taking that much aspirin, or pretty much any other drug, you would have serious permanent ailments because of it. Weed will not mess you up permanently, even if you do smoke every day (granted a lifetime of smoking every day will eventually take its toll on your lungs of course). It can take over your life and screw up your short term memory of course, which is why I use it in moderation.

    I mean I smoke ocassionally and I am one of the most observant, quickest thinking people I know. And I have become more observant and perceptive after starting pot than I ever was before. Smoking taught me to really focus and tune in to my surroundings in a way I didn't even know I could do. It's helped me to conquer my fear of heights, gave me a better sense of muscle awareness, and has rekindled my burning desire to learn. Every time I blaze up (once a week usually) I learn something new about myself or my surroundings.

    Pot can really help you if you use it correctly.
     
  15. StayLoose1011

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    Pot can also really hurt you if you use it incorrectly. And guess what, 99.9% of people who smoke pot are going to tell you they use it correctly.

    None of us knows shit about this topic. I can be confident of this because no one on Earth knows shit about this topic. It's obvious that some drugs - alcohol, coke, meth, X, LSD - cause serious brain damage when abused. Others - weed, namely - are not so obvious. But, I think for anyone to talk with any sort of authority on this subject only makes one look ridiculous. No one knows the real answer to this. I hate to break it to you, but we don't even know how the brain works.

    What am I adding to this thread? I don't know. I guess not much. But yeah, whatever, maybe we will know the real answers some day.
     
  16. J.C

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    meth puts holes in your brain. So I'd say that one causes the most damage, but then agian there isn't a whole lot of evedence to back it up do to a law the makes it hard to research.

    J.C
     
  17. Jimmy420

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    This one is not on th list but i believe it causes a lot of brain damage.
    television
     
  18. StayLoose1011

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    Excellent point, Jimmy420.
     
  19. Share the Warmth

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    I agree with you on how little we actually know. That is the one constant truth for me. No one knows, we can only sense, interpret for ourselves, and then act. I do believe in universal truths, and I think we all have access to these truths on some level, regardless of one's level of consciousness. So I think we all decide for ourselves how much truth we want in our lives.

    But on the subject of brain damage and drugs, I think we know when we're going too far in that direction by the mean level of appreciation and joy we feel when we're sober. If we're miserable and bored most times when not using a substance, it may be time to get clean.

    So I agree, most people who use substances to achieve an altered state swear they're doing so in a safe manner. They say it, but it's how they feel and think about it that matters.

    So I think we DO know inside that what we're doing is safe, harmful, or even beneficial, though that knowledge may be contrary to what we tell others.
     
  20. Can I Live???

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    To get high ofcourse haha
     

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