In search of your input on my dreadlock "goal"

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  1. nattyfredlocks

    nattyfredlocks Member

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    Since you couldn't read it the first time

    if non-meat could give my cousin all of the nutrition he required, why would he, a lifetime vegetarian, decide to eat meat?

    if non-meat could give my cousin all of the nutrition he required, why would the doctors, with phd's, decide to place him on a dietary guide that included meat?
     
  2. dreadedsunflower

    dreadedsunflower Senior Member

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    because his doctor is retarded like you

    plus where is this "website" of his

    and what proof do you have he is your cousin?
     
  3. SithLocked Holmes

    SithLocked Holmes Member

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    Hmm. So maybe meat makes you homicidal? Or maybe it was brought up, that although he killed his brother, at least he didn't eat him?


    Like taking a general analysis of a Vow and making it about your cousin?
     
  4. gretaoto

    gretaoto Senior Member

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    You are not making much sense natty. I just read about Ulcerative Colitis and no where does it mention eating meat as a "cure". And it doesn't mention people dying from it. If it is severe then surgery would be required. And if surgery goes wrong then people generally die from that.

    I didn't ever read about patients vomiting either.

    "If you are a vegetarian with ulcerative colitis, dairy products and plant proteins -- such as soy products -- can provide the nutritional elements found in meat, fish, and poultry."
    -WebMD

    Stop trying to make stuff up. Unless you got his disease wrong.

    The only thing I have seem to read about is that high fiber foods can aggravate the disease but it doesn't mean you can't be a vegetarian or that you have to eat meat.
     
  5. daisymelan

    daisymelan Professional fence sitter

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    natty, i'm digging having you around. If it weren't for your threads, this place would be pretty dull right now. =)
     
  6. dreadedsunflower

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    natty, this helps me conclude that your story was the one that didn't compare because when my gallbladder was taken out i threw up a whole hell of a lot at first and the only thing that didn't upset my stomach were lite foods such as fruits, crackers, vegetable soup, yogurt, and other various things.
     
  7. alaska.greenie

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    hah if anything, being a vegetarian made him homicidal ;)

    and yes, at least he wasn't a cannibal :D
     
  8. nattyfredlocks

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    So you're claiming to have better knowledge than doctors? Typical southern trash.

    Why would I lie about him having a website? Lmao you are such trash. You can find it here: http://humbledan.blogspot.com/

    Typical trash assuming that i'm fabricating stories.

    What does it even matter if he's my cousin or not? lmao what trashhhh

    Here's the whole story from the words of his Mom and my Aunt.

    Email #1 : Finding out

    For those who have not yet heard, Dan was recently diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis, an inflammatory bowel disease. He has been pretty sick for the past month and through a lot of tests, finally diagnosed last week after a colonoscopy. The cause of ulcerative colitis is unknown, but it can be treated and managed with medications.
    Unfortunately Dan was diagnosed with a pretty severe case that caused him to become very dehydrated and weak, leading to admission to the hospital last night. Already, after a night of IV fluids and some medications he was feeling better today. The doctor said tonight that Dan will probably need to stay in the hospital a couple more days for treatment and observation, hoping he will be home by the weekend.
    As you can imagine, this has been pretty stressful for all of us, especially Dan. Being in the hospital is never fun and definitely not the place where you can get a lot of rest! Every time he tried to close his eyes and rest today, someone was coming in to do something. I spent the day with him today and took him his laptop and Kindle (book reader) to keep him occupied over the next couple days. I even took up a Scrabble game, but we never got the chance to play. ( Dan said he was just too tired, I think he was afraid of the challenge!!!!! Ha! Ha!- you know he isn't feeling good when he passes up the opportunity to play Scabble!!)
    Anyway, just thought I'd give an update on his status since many of you asked me to let you know how he is doing.
    Here's his cell phone number in case you'd like to give him a call-414-403-0751. He's at St. Mary's Ozaukee.
    I'm sure he'd love to hear from you!!!
    Will keep you posted with any changes/updates.

    Email #2 - Update

    I wish I had good news to share about how Dan is doing, unfortunately I don't. He is still in the hospital and had a pretty rough weekend. After eating "real " food the first time last Thursday, he became very nauseous and started vomiting so they immediately put him back on the liquid diet. Even the liquids aren't going down very well. He continues to be nauseous and has been in the bathroom numerous times each day (pretty much all day and night long). The liquid diet is pretty boring and he says he's getting tired of the same thing every meal, unfortunately not that many choices in a liquid diet. We took him some vegetable broth and "real" tea from his home collection and that helped a little. We also took him some fruit popsicles tonight but he wasn't up for trying them yet. We accompanied him for a very short walk tonight and he became very weak and nauseous. We had to get a wheelchair to get him back to his room.
    The nurse mentioned that the dietitian is becoming concerned that Dan has obviously not been getting proper nutrition for a while now and suggested the possibility of TPN (total parenteral nutrition). He is losing weight too. TPN is another form of IV nutrition (formula loaded with lots of nutrients to meet individual needs). However, Dan would have to get a central line (PICC line) which is a type of IV that is often used for prolonged periods of treatment. We will be talking to the doctor and getting more information about this tomorrow.
    Dan's friend Emily visited yesterday and brought him some DVD's to watch. Ryan also visited at the same time and I guess the 3 of them played a "quick" Scrabble game (didn't keep score-shortened version). Dan said maybe tomorrow he might challenge me!! He hasn't been up to too much recently. Even reading is a chore, he just hasn't had much energy. Not sure what he's going to do about school at this point. All of his professorsrs know he's in the hospital and told him not to worry about his school work at this point, but he will be missing 3 weeks in a row if he doesn't go this week, which I am pretty sure he will not be. Guess we'll have to continue to just take one day at a time.
    Thanks to everyone who has called Dan and/or visited. I know he really appreciates it. It has to get really boring for him some days! Not sure how much longer he will be there, but I promise to keep you posted.
    Just a reminder...he is at Columbia-St. Mary's, Ozaukee Cty. Room 118. His cell phone # is 414-403-0751. (not sure about his room phone number).
    Hopefully he'll be well enough to come home soon.

    Email #3 - update

    Hi everyone, just want to give some updates on Dan. Sorry it's been so long since last time but it's been a VERY busy week.....for all of us. I am in Madison this weekend for Army Reserves but have talked to Dan a couple times today.
    Today he reports that he is feeling "alot better". Believe me, I have waited a long time to hear that!
    He really wasn't feeling very well at all this whole week.
    They did end up placing a PICC line on Tuesday and started the TPN. He didn't eat or drink anything for a few days. It seems that every time he tried anything he was in the bathroom "ejecting" it from both ends........poor thing. He has had low energy, making it even difficult to take short walks. ( I know he doesn't like to be too far from the bathroom at any time). He has also lost way too much weight.....skin and bones.
    Back to today's good news.............he showered today and went for a nice walk. Said he felt "great". His trips to the bathroom have decreased in number, definitely a VERY good sign. He has had solids the last couple meals and doing pretty good. (Breakfast stayed down, but I guess he became a little nauseous this afternoon and puked out lunch!!) He says he's trying supper!!! I told him to go slow and easy!! He has been researching a variety of new diets.
    The doctor that saw him today said that if he feels just as good tomorrow they will consider giving him his steroid medication orally vs. IV, and maybe he can go home early next week if he continues to improve. Keep your fingers crossed................and definitely keep praying.
    I REALLY hope that he continues to stay on track and gets better soon. I know it's very depressing for him to be at the hospital for so long.
    He has really enjoyed visits and calls....so keep it up!!!! I certainly appreciate all that you do too!!!
    Have to go for now......duty calls!!!!!
    Thanks again for everything.
    I will keep you posted!

    Email #4 - update

    Hello everyone, just thought I'd write a few lines before going to bed to let you know how Dan is doing.
    Well, things have not changed very much as far as how he is feeling. Still low energy, tired, weak. However, a lot has changed regarding future treatment plans.
    Unfortunately, Dan continues to be very nauseous at times and is still having some trouble keeping all of his food down. He is still having frequent trips to the bathroom (definitely not as bad as the beginning) and still losing a significant amount of blood every time he goes. He had to receive blood transfusions the last two days, one unit of blood each day. I told him maybe he'll get enough energy now to start dancing in the hallways!! (it was funny because he said one of his nurses said the same thing!!)
    On Sunday, one of the consulting GI specialists mentioned that they were thinking of trying Dan on a new medication called Remicade. It is a medication that is used in a variety of inflammatory diseases. The medication is given through an IV over a period of about 2 hours. After his first three loading doses (initial dose, 2 weeks later and then 6 weeks after that) he will have to go in approximately every 6-8 weeks for maintenance doses. He will be monitored closely with blood tests in between treatments. The doctor stated that the length of therapy is determined on how well the patient responds to treatment, but suggested that it will probably be long term for Dan (years). I will admit that after we read through lots of info about the medication on the Internet, we were a little scared and had a list of questions for the doctor. The medication is very strong and, of course, can be potentially dangerous with lots of unpleasant side effects.
    Dan's doctor is really nice and took a lot of time to go through our questions and answered them all. He feels that this is the next step to be taken since Dan has not responded as well as planned to treatment thus far and it's already been two VERY long weeks. It wouldn't be good to keep going the way he is without more significant results.
    So, after careful thought, a lot of research and talking to some people that have been on the medication, Dan has decided to go ahead with it. Tonight the doctor said that they may give him his first dose as soon as tomorrow. (he has to first get his TB test and blood work results back). Honestly, I'm a little nervous but certainly want Dan to get better as soon as possible (he's tired of being so sick and wants to come home). Believe me, we all feel the same.
    He still has a way to go before he is discharged. He will have to be able to eat a little more and keep everything down for starters!! After the new medication starts the doctor will begin to taper him off the steroids, eventually getting him back on all oral medications. Not sure how long all that will take. At the top of the list for tomorrow's questions is- What are the discharge criteria??
    So, please keep Dan in your thoughts and prayers. Hopefully all will go well and he REALLY will get to come home soon.
    Again, thanks to everyone for your kind words and wishes. Dan really enjoys the calls, e-mails and visits from everyone.
    Keep it up!! Will keep you posted...

    Email #5 - recovery

    GREAT NEWS!!!

    Dan is doing MUCH better the past couple days. He has had a lot more energy and has been up and out of bed for the majority of the days. Not only has he been feeling better he even looks better. He continues to be on the TPN for nutrition in addition to eating/drinking. He has been eating 3 meals/day and tolerating them well. The last two days he has not experienced very much nausea, no vomiting either. Trips to the bathroom are fewer in number too.
    Yesterday he had baked Tilapia for lunch with green beans and for supper...turkey!!
    Today he had a baked chicken breast for lunch and joined us for a fish fry dinner!! Kelsey and I picked up take-out fish fry dinners and took them to the hospital. Dan chose broiled salmon and mixed veggies and really enjoyed it!!! He's like a new man!!!
    Best news of all, the TB blood test result came back this afternoon and it was negative. He was started on the new medication today. I took off work early to be with him during his first Remicade infusion and it went very well....no ill side effects at all. Whew.....honestly, I think I was much more nervous than he was!!!!
    Dr. Sid met with us this evening and was happy to hear all the good reports. He is very pleased with how things are coming along. He said if all goes well over the weekend, they will be discontinuing the IV's and switching over all of his meds to oral ones instead of IV.
    He said Dan could be coming home soon........hopefully by Monday!!! That news was definitely music to Dan's ears.....he is so ready to come home.
    Oh, I forgot.........the "other" big news.......we played our first Scrabble game today since he's been in the hospital. Remember when I told you that I thought he might be scared to play me?????? I whipped his butt!!! His first play of the game he used all his letters!!! I could have died....but I hung in there and I even had the opportunity to use all my letters too later in the game. Not kidding...I WON!!! I'm gonna give him a chance to redeem himself tomorrow!
    Again, thanks to all for your prayers, calls, visits, e-mails, etc. They mean a lot!!
    Pray that all goes well over the weekend so Dan can get home soon.
    I'll keep you posted.
     
  9. fickle

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    this.
     
  10. nattyfredlocks

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    I'm gonna just go ahead and say fuck off. I'm not making shit up. This is serious to me and I wouldn't lie about it to little fuckers like you who I don't give a shit about.
     
  11. gretaoto

    gretaoto Senior Member

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    Where does it say in there that he had to eat meat or die? And where does it state that he was a vegetarian?


    Doesn't say he is doing it because he will die if he doesn't...
    I was reading your cousins blog and found this:

    "I have decided to break with my ten-and-a-half-year-long tradition of strict vegetarianism and order fish for lunch!

    I'm doing it partly because it seems like as good a time as any (I've often felt that it was inertia keeping me vegetarian rather than hard-core adherence to ethical principle, although I have continued to see some value in vegetarianism.) Another reason is that the new diet I plan to start when I'm back home (post forthcoming) would be quite difficult to keep up with no sources of animal protein. Also, I've lost approximately 20 pounds since getting sick (!), so hopefully this will help me get back to a normal weight. Furthermore, fish and fish oil in particular are supposed to be very good for treating inflammation of the digestive tract, which is the principle cause of symptoms in ulcerative colitis. Lastly, I'm really curious how it will taste after all these years!"
     
  12. nattyfredlocks

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    Firstly, I said he could potentially die if he didn't get better. He was very sick for at least a month, probably more. This is evident of him stating he lost 20 pounds. That's a lot to lose in that span of time.

    Where does it state that he is a vegetarian? How about you check your own bold?

    "Because he will die?" He's already recovered? Did you not read anything yet?

    When he wrote that he was still trying to recover... Which is obvious here: "Furthermore, fish and fish oil in particular are supposed to be very good for treating inflammation of the digestive tract"

    And also obvious by stating he had lost 20 pounds.
     
  13. dreadedsunflower

    dreadedsunflower Senior Member

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    typical of a northern piece of shit thinking they are better than any other person in the world

    common sense not book sense tells me that lite foods help the stomach more than heavy foods but it was also my doctors book sense that told me that

    and if you don't give a shit about us why are you so concerned about proving your self to us? you apparently want us to say ok your smart your right your all that but guess what you suck at backing up what you are saying your a piece of shit trashy northerner
     
  14. fickle

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    you're christian right? and that's an important part of your identity (correct me if i'm wrong, it's just the impression i got).. how does this sort of communication fit in with that for you? i'm genuinely curious. how do you think God views that behaviour?

    honestly, honestly not trying to be provocative.
     
  15. nattyfredlocks

    nattyfredlocks Member

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    no comment
     
  16. nattyfredlocks

    nattyfredlocks Member

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    unproductive, doesn't deserve my response.
     
  17. dreadedsunflower

    dreadedsunflower Senior Member

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    no comment because you know your "god" wouldn't approve

    if your going to claim a religion follow it don't dabble
     
  18. fickle

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    why? pm if you like. i'm just curious about you.
     
  19. dreadedsunflower

    dreadedsunflower Senior Member

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    but yet you took the time to type that you weren't going to respond wow that is amazing smarts right there. :rolleyes:
     
  20. nattyfredlocks

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    through the hoop, now :)
     

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