In search of your input on my dreadlock "goal"

but why produce so many when there are millions of kids needing to be adopted in the US?

maybe i'm just weird for thinking this way

and if they didn't want it to be our business they shouldn't of went on TV

 

I'm not arguing with you. I feel no need to have more than two children myself and we are actively considering fostering. I do know that the adoption process is much more difficult than people realize and that is why most people adopt from other countries rather than ours... and typically, they leave the country to adopt because they want a cute cuddly infant rather than an older child. Most children that are left in foster homes and available for adoption in north america are over the age of two.

 

and i want to adopt older children because they need love just as much as infants

and this is a touchy thing for me because i was in foster homes till i was 10 because my mom wouldnt stop drinking i live with her now but it still haunts me

 

...Try reading my post above that. I see your point, but also see past it. (not saying you're trying to pull the wool over anyones eyes, just that you should keep thinking about this)

Of course you're right, developing nations have massive problems compared to us, but that's just making it "their" problem. Each and every one of us needs to behave responsibly, the fact that some people are reckless and stupid is no excuse, we're better than that.

I just realized I may not have made my point clear about how the large family thing grows, so:

say your parents have 20 kids. So far so bad. Each kid has 5 on average, because they grew up in a house that influenced them to think of more children as natural, but they're not insane, unlike their mentally unbalanced parents (it IS a mental unbalance, there's various hoarding disorders that affect this, it's not healthy for the parent's or children's minds) Well each of their kids, being reasonably sane, has another 5, and so fourth. in a few generations, you have HUNDREDS of this familys children, which also spreads their genetics disporportionatly, harming the gene pool, because natural selection no longer takes care of this sort of family.

Now, the family whos parents have 2 kids, and each kid has 1 or 2 kids, in a few generations, they have maybe 15 family members.

I know it's touchy to say what people can do with their bodys, but the bottom line is it affects all of humanity, so it's not just their choice, it's one of the few things where the greater good is a strong argument. Not only is it for the greater good, but it's for the childrens good, because no matter what a great parent you are, there's a point where they do NOT get the attention they need, I think my parents did an excellent job, and with 2 sisters, there was still plenty of jockying for attention and whatnot. And the childrens good is also the greater good, because they are the future of our species.

So... "it's my vagina, and I'll pop out all the babies I feel like, and you can't stop me cause of my reproductive rights" is NOT a valid argument. Wether or not you can pay for it, or make a tv show, or what have you.

 

This thread seems to just jump through all sorts of controversial topics.

 

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I know

so...whats your view on abortion?

lol

 

If you feel that way rooshack and dreadedsunflower then how do you feel about fertility treatments? How sometimes they can produce multiple children. If you let nature do it's thing, maybe people should stop taking fertility drugs and just adopt. There is a reason some people can't conceive.

 

if you cant conceive adopt i believe the inability to conceive should be a sign

adopt is what i would do if i couldn't have kids of my own

 

i believe in abortion when it comes to a child being horribly deformed or if you have been raped
but i also believe it should be up to the woman

personally if i knew my child would be deformed in a way that would make their life impossible or cause them immense pain and suffering i would abort

 

Honestly I don't want kids right now, and probably not anytime soon. I have been on the Depo shot for 8 years because pmdd and later found it to be an awesome birth control. The risk of being on it for so long, is not being able to have children, also bone density but I just help that by lots of calcium, anyways if it happens and I am not able to have children later on in life, I would adopt in a heart beat and wouldn't try anything else.

 

are you a vegetarian, liz?

 

No, I just cut out a lot of meat in my new diet. Plus I went all organic, so the meat is super expensive and I rather just eat soy and tofu because it cheaper..

 

just wondering because of the issue of meat and calcium

 

Octo-mom and the similar nutcases had sketchy fertility doctors implant uneeded numbers of embryos, give hormone overdoses, and the like. They often also suffer from similar hoarding and attention seeking behaviors.

 

i have 4 kids and really dont give a fuck what anybody thinks about it!

 

I wasn't just talking about octomom, she obviously and stated that she has issues. What about fertility doctors who implant as many eggs as they can and instead of one getting fertilized 6 or 8 get fertilized? It happens quite a bit now and usually they don't abort the other fetuses.

I just don't want to sit here and argue with you because apparently you are right and everyone else who disagrees is wrong but the last time I checked I don't live in China and don't think the government should have any say in regulating something that is completely natural for me to do.

 

weeeeel i'm just gonna say that adoption costs a shit ton of money.

in reality only rich bastards can afford to adopt. i know this because my sister is actually way interested in adopting and so far she's thinking she'll go with russia as they seem to be the chillest about the whole thing.

to adopt in the u.s. you practically have to be a saint- with a ton of money.

so basically, it's to the point that no one can afford to adopt. why pay for an already existing kid if you can birth your own for free?

and that, I personally believe, is the reason why so many damn people have kids rather than adopt the 'millions' in the u.s.

 

how did this go from dreadlocks...to islam...to deformed children?

 

Again, I realize it's touchy. Yes, it's natural, but there's a point where it's quite destructive for ALL of us if one person acts rashly. I didn't say to do like china, china ended up with all sorts of problems because of that, including massive infanticide and around 120 boys per 100 girls (that survive past infancy). But "you can't stop me" isn't an argument, just a statement. And I have less than no respect for someone playing games with all of our futures, especially their own children, just because it's "natural". It's also natural for one or two of those 19 children to survive, but instead they all do. So you have to compensate for the fact that there's no natural selection.

 

i think most of the people in this forum wouldn't exist if natural selection still occurred at the rate it did before medicine...