in a cave with an elder

@unknown delight
wow i am happy you see where i am coming from. Life changing is the phrase.

 

wow what? lol

have others seen you during this phase? are you tripping in the dark, are you physically walking around your room etc.

I'm trying to imagine this... obviously you are not teleported somewhere. A buzzkill but could you try to explain what you physically are doing during this?

Sounds fucking awesome though.

 

ok i lay in my bed in my room. stare at my celing (there is a crack in it i usualy focus on) the crack seems 2 expand and emcompase my entire celing untill eventually the darkness encompases my entire room. The last thing i see is my red lava lamp. as soon as that also becomes blackness imediatly (as if transported) i am in this cave with the native amarican and the others. again all the usual effects of lsd are no longer present. anawat stands and him and i walk deeper into the cave, sitting periodically and smoking out of this dmt pipe. just his presence is enlightening. eventualy he leavs and then...i am swiftly returned to my room. i am returned through a tunel much like the pic that is on your signature. then im back to the normal triping and meditate on what i just experienced the rest of my trip...or most of it anyway sometimes i get side tracked as most do when tripping lol

 

oh im sorry i forgot 2 answer your first questions.
only one person has seen me in this phase of my trip, but he was black out drunk and didnt remember what i did (i asked him what happened to me)
usualy its dark in my room exept for the red lava lamp and ocasionaly a black light.
my mom said she heard me walking around at 3 in the morning one day after i tripped, so idk if i am walking but when i come back from this journey i am sitting cross legged in my bed

 

whoa.. lol sweet. Yeah, thanks for the info - it definitely makes a bit more sense. Sounds like you just go somewhere very distinct and clearly vivid in your brain (while your body lays mostly motionless on your bed). I wonder if you're "sleep motioning" or whatnot during this phase (like the walking noises you mentioned), but that's probably not important.

does it feel more like a dream or crazy different and you feel you are WIDE freaking awake experiencing all this. Do the hits from his dmt pipe seem to elicit dmt feelings too? haha man, it's weird just even asking stuff like this. I gotta say I love this theme or whatever your brain has made up though, and it sounds like you've got plenty of more exploring to do. How much control do have of your body during this? Wonder what would happen if you tried to touch or attack this atawan (don't do it unless you're dumb and experimental like me).

 

yea man i truly feel like i am in a cave in the desert...i have bin around deserts before and it's extremly familiar.
and yes the dmt pipe does give me the buzz sensation that you experience on dmt. lol
i know man its crazy shit right? haha if anawat is as important as i think he is? i wudnt want to attack him lol

 

Thats some wild stuff. I've defiantly felt the presence of masters while tripping. I have become really in tune with Osho Rajneesh and his teachings, and his presence is felt constantly.

Even while not tripping his presence is felt, but while tripping he guides the trip to present certain stuff. If I have a doubt in my mind that needs to be clear, I ask for his guidance and it comes. Its amazing cause hes actually here, even tho hes dead, his energy is still right here doing stuff in the now. Blows me away everytime I think about it.

The "When you ready for your master he will come" thing. When I had my first enlightend state of samadhi while tripping the next day I got asked to go see the great Sat Master, Sant Rajinder Singh Ji Maharaj. I never went and saw him though, but I still plan to do so.

Maybe you are out of reach from a master, so he comes to you. Or maybe he is a master carried over from a past life. Maybe your just on the same path, and you were lucky enough to bump into each other. Its pretty amazing whatever it is. Id try to have him teach you to reach him without tripping. See if its whats happening, is really really happening.

 

i feel like he is a spirit...of a dead native american who was extremly wise and maby taught others his ways...im not sure, its the vibe i get.

i feel Anawat with me when not tripping and i can picture him after about an hour of meditation, but i live with a family who not only dosent trust me, but the check on me constently so my focus is lost a lot. i need to get away for a weekend (id really like to go to a desert like in these...visions lets call them) but anyware that i can relax and meditate to search for him would be great.

he seems extremly important so theres no way im writing this off...he has changed my life and made me a better person...and hes still with me so

 

maybe Anawat is you

 

Well, anawat is something his mind created, and i'm sure all the teachings and such are things that the OP has already read about and such in the past - just for some reason, the "teachings" come in the form of coming from "someone else."

Exact same idea for the guy who can "Feel Osho Rajneeshe's presence and his teachings." I think it's just your own brain regurgitating what you've read. It's kind of like a very exaggerated and played out version of just "Oh... I see what he's talking about" moment on acid.

That's me guess anyways.

EDit: Or for Mr. Atawan see-er, early signs of skitzo :O

 

i have pondered if anawat was myself...its hard to imagen because he seems so very strong and knowlagable...i never could imagen being that way, but he seems to be helping me so i could see that

and yes i supose that it could be my mind almost reviewing things i already knew...kind of rearanging my priorities maby? im not sure

 

@Kokujin
"I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together."

I have been to a similar place that the OP has described on multiple occasions... when I was there everything lost its' essence and no physical form was left. Just vibes (represented by feelings and color), the vibes of all things slowly melted together. Helping me to see that we are all one, just as it always has been, and always will be.

 

...i like that man i dig where your coming from on this. its a strange subject becase some say its just a hallucination foreget it" and others say "its a spirit guide be happy"...i lean twards the spirit guide explanation because thats what anawat feels like to me...again i am a littl elost and confuzed on the subject

 

this is a truely amazing thread to read

i have also had contact with teachers/entities/i like to think of them as dmt aliens hah, but i have never had visions of them, more like them communicating to me from within me, although lots of times they will confuse me

 

So what are these profound insights "he" shares on "life, peace, love, and life" as you put it?

 

i just read in the dmt section that your first trip ever was on DMT, trippin4enlightenment
, and this was the first time you encountered anawat

and i see that your also 16, thats a pretty unique experience maybe thats why you see him so much when you trip acid now

 

i put it like that because this was the first time i ever thought of being "hippie" the main thing is utter oneness. simple things a lot of people would overlook. like plants are alive just like us, love is the answer to violence, animals have emotions, death comes fast, spirits are among us(that one is a belief some may not beleive) and so on. things that when i talk to people who havnt done anything of this nature (psycadelics) they just look at me, shake their heads, and walk away.

im aware that many people come to these...conclusions without a..guide if you will. What is so profound is the simplicity, yet divinity that is linked with this preasence and my little thoughts. what i feel when i am around anawat is indescribable, but il try for you spexxx. Infinate knowlage yet the feeling of ignorance, the feeling of familiarity, yet how you would feel waking up in a hotel room. a little confuzed and dazed.

Good vibes to you spexxx

 

first off thanks for saying this is an interessting thread to read

i thought that makes sence, being my first trip and all, the strange thing is how vivid i see him. and how familiar it feels. i talked to many and no one can say they have experienced exactly what i am...this again is why i felt the need to post it up here. There are skeptics, people who are indifferent, and people who think i have found a guide. Its all overwelming and exiting.

all i know is it is happening and he seems...important.

 

i think subconsciously you must think all-knowing native american people with names like atawan can teach cool things. it's really fucking hilarious you sit down, take hits of dmt (which the LSD then actually transcribes a somewhat replicated buzz) and have conversations with him, but all in all I say a pretty cool way for your brain to show you stuff on LSD. Most people just think it, I suppose.

Be safe but enjoy it, I say. I am probably more skeptic than I wanna be, though, so I say you should have more fun with it than I might. Who knows maybe I'll meet a guide next time I trip.

Also love the way you said the room gets ALL DARK, then you just see vivid caves and him appear. Pretty cool way for it to start hah.

 

i have always been interested with native americans...i first got into them after reading jim morrisons autobio about the car crash. after that i did some researching and im intrested by their ways.

i will have fun..gota enjoy the simple things