Important Questions for atheists

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by ginalee14, Apr 20, 2014.

  1. odonII

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    It's odon -_-
     
  2. katkin

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    :oops:
     
  3. odonII

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    It's ok. Just kidding. I got over misspelling the 150th time it happened. ;)
     
  4. katkin

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    :cheers2: Do people get it wrong that often then?
     
  5. odonII

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    It happens by accident a few times.

    It happens by design more often.

    Less frequently recently (though there might be a spike now).

    I guess because it sounds like it's pronounced oden.

    I50 times is probably stretching it a bit.
     
  6. Meliai

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    Gina have you ever studied Greek mythology or taken a comparative religion class? Or studied various religions on your own?

    If you have then you just disproved your point and if you have not you should really open your mind.
     
  7. Asmodean

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    Indeed. We are far too reasonable to put it like that.

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  8. AiryFox

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    And that is one of the major problems with the theistic ego. Many theists are under the misconception that they absolutely cannot be wrong in regards to the existence of their clearly imaginary deity.
     
  9. Asmodean

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    Well, here is your own problem surfacing again, Airy. There are many people looking at the world with a perception that includes they can't be wrong about it. When it is known they have a belief in a higher power you immediatly insist that is what is causing their egoistic view, while it is obvious such views are not limited to theists alone ;)
     
  10. AiryFox

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    I admit that I could be wrong. However, under the circumstances in regards to the knowledge that we do possess, especially after thousands of years of human civilization whereby there is no verifiable proof of any supernatural deity, it is a safe bet to make the claim that god does not exist.
     
  11. Asmodean

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    That was not my point, nor is it your biggest problem. What that is exactly (or how it seems to me ;) we so humble :D) is that you insist on attributing such flaw in a theistic person on the fact that they're being theistic, while it is obvious it is not only or even especially a theistic character flaw and therefor is a mere assumption and prejudice to assume it IS because of their theistic nature (unless you know that person very well).
     
  12. Sallysmart

    Sallysmart Raynstorm Serenade

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    How true this is. Thing is if they are on their path to prove and you ask how they know they quote the bible, something said because we all have no proof. We have to rely on our hopes there is a god and until he stands before me I Think there is one. Would I stand there and argue there is one with someone who can't see it as real? Nope, it's a good chance but why try to convince others what we don't really know? Why not just go with the feeling it is true and be happy?
    Some people believe Everything they hear and gotta push it on others. I like people who are good natured and want to do what's right and I think god feels the same way.
     
  13. YouFreeMe

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    What about the gods that were spoken about before the Christian God was ever a thought? There were many years when people did not know of the Christian God and therefore did not talk about Him. So, did He not exist then? Did speaking of Him make Him exist? I can agree that a human having an idea of something makes that thing exist in some way, but as a thought, not as a reality. So maybe, to you, God exists as an idea.

    Most Atheists seek tangible proof--they want to see, hear, taste, smell. That isn't how it works, and that argument rarely appeals to believers.
     
  14. Asmodean

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    Who are they here? Theists in general? Theists like ginalee? Just ginalee (and/or people like her)? My experience is they (theists in general ;)) mainly try to prove it when asked (even though deep in their hearts they might know it is both not needed and not possible to do so).

    I like that you specified here that it are only some, and not all. I like to add another (obvious) specification, that these people are not restricted to theistic beliefs. As has been pointed out also recently on this forum some people have the habit of placing an equal amount of faith in science ;)


    Before we (humans) left Africa thousands and thousands of years ago God was black :afro:
     
  15. Sallysmart

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    They meaning those who can't take "ok" for an answer from someone who is on the fence about it or is a non believer, like Ginlee I suppose.
    Never had a problem myself with someone who was religious and could say their bit and leave me to think it through for myself, the pushy ones get my argument and at that point for me it's for arguments sake only, not that I care much what they think but they want it, they get it, just not in my house where I feel they are trying to take control over my thoughts and rights under my roof.
    What gets me most is those arguing half drunk over a bottle of wine or other booze or drugs, them ones are hilarious. Talk about Pushy then, they gotta be heard, they gotta be right and you have to agree with them.
     
  16. Asmodean

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    Well, I can say I've had problems with people who are religious.. :p But the art is to perceive that individual and his upbringing/surroundings/personal beliefs were the problem, not the religion itself. To balance things out, I also had problems with non religious people and no, I did not blame atheism for their flaws :D
     
  17. ginalee14

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    You can think what you want but I wasn't grinning. If I was I'd say so. But the way you wrote it is funny and I did laugh.

    As for what sort of atheists I'm talking about, I'm talking about many years worth of God and religion talks on countless sites and forums (very rarely in person).

    The only way to be a true atheist is to never enter into discussions about God and religion. It's similar to what I wrote about people who don't think or believe that space aliens exist. They read nothing, research nothing, discuss nothing. But *I said that already*.

    Same rabid campers stalking my posts. People seriously do need to grow up. For what it's worth, the people on my ignore list .. I never read your threads or posts (but you *LOVE* to read mine). Trolling, stalking .. it's clear as day. Maturity is no value to those people. I swear, they'll never grow.
     
  18. Deranged

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    A preachy atheist is no better than a bible thumping christian
     
  19. ginalee14

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    I happen to love religion. I'm fond of them all, I think they each have value and worth. I don't study to a scholarly level (yeah right, I wish) but I do read. As for mythology, there is always a basis in reality that gives rise to the "stories" that are told.

    As a matter of fact, I'm currently visiting lucifer (again). I happen to know that lucifer and satan are NOT two in the same, as most people believe. But this isn't a conversation to be had with atheists.
     
  20. ginalee14

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    The Messiah?

    Atheists don't understand life, let alone the more specific world of divinity (God). They have the means, they just don't bother to do the work.

    It's true, they don't understand life. Because if they did, they'd know the value of maturity (growth) and other behavioral health qualities (which they're lacking). The same few people *LOVE* to stalk my threads and posts. Says a whole lot about them, what they feed on ..
     
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