Impeachment Is Unwarranted

Discussion in 'Politics' started by srgreene, Dec 1, 2019.

  1. There's another side to this, being willing to suck a fart out of Hillary's ass.
     
  2. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Your sources are total BS, because neither is Muslim, nor Arab, nor unbiased. Your story of the abusive Caliph and Abu Imran and of a girl who gets her face burned and all that killing is just lifted from fiction which is old and has been around in the Middle East. They have a book publishing business in the Middle East, which produces fiction and non-fiction. You seem hell-bent on using Arab fiction to sell hate of Muslims in your racist world. You clearly want Americans to hate Muslims. By the way, Jeffery Dahmer was an American cannibal, and Dylan Roof a mass murderer. Are you just like them? Are you just like the men who killed James Bird in Jasper Texas? Are you just like the men who hung Roy Davis in Gilpin County Colorado? Are you just like the White men who lynched Black men in Marion Indiana? Why do you support Trump who supports Mohammad Bin Salman who had Jamal Kashoggi butchered alive? Don't you Christians regard such behavior as immoral?
     
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    The Trump supporters are going to run with that eloquent statement.
     
  4. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    As a Native American, I can certainly appreciate the need for higher standards re whom we let in--but I'm afraid we'd be closing the door too late. I find it curious that an immigrant from a country like the Philippines would be making this argument.
     
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    Thanks for providing us with sources for your views. There is a veritable cottage industry of Islamaphobic literature that may appropriately be dismissed as B.S. Take the book by Bat Ye'Or (aka Giselle Littman), for example, who coined the term dhimmitude to denote the alleged humiliating subjugation of Christians and Jews under Islam. She is a Zionist with thin academic credentials--no Ph.D., never taught at a university--only a woman with an axe to grind, a library card, and internet connection. Historian R.B. Betts comments : "The general tone of the book is strident and anti-Muslim. This is coupled with selective scholarship designed to pick out the worst examples of anti-Christian behavior by Muslim governments, usually in time of war and threats to their own destruction (as in the case of the deplorable Armenian genocide of 1915). Add to this the attempt to demonize the so-called Islamic threat to Western civilization and the end-product is generally unedifying and frequently irritating." The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam: From Jihad to Dhimmitude. - Middle East Policy | HighBeam Research
    Professor Michael Sells (2003), University of Chicago historian comments that "Whenever the possibility is raised of actually comparing circumstances of non-Christians in Europe to non-Muslims under Islamic governance in a careful, thoughtful manner, Bat Ye'or forecloses such comparison." The New Crusades: Constructing the Muslim Enemy p. 364. Distinguished Professor of History Chase F. Robinson of City University of New York writes: "this is a work of polemic -- scholarly polemic, but polemic just the same. To list errors of fact would probably fill this entire number of the Bulletin."Middle East Studies Association Bulletin. Vol. 31, No. 1 (July 1997), pp. 97-98 Sidney Griffith, head of the department of Semitic and Egyptian Languages and Literature at Catholic University says Bat Ye'Or has "written a polemical tract, not responsible historical analysis." International Journal of Middle East Studies, Vol. 30, No. 4. (Nov. 1998), pp. 619–621.

    Ibrahim's scholarly credentials are more impressive, but the book still biased and selective in its coverage. The author was born in the U.S. of Coptic Egyptian parents. He ignores the preservation of Christian and Jewish sites throughout Isalm, including the preservation of monasteries that flourished under the Byzantine Caliphate. For a more balanced account, see Dr. Fred Donner, 92012) Muhammad and the Believers.
     
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  6. stormountainman

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    These Christian extremists never want to talk about the hundreds of thousands of Muslim Negros who lived entire lives in Christian chains, on Christian slave plantations. I have read one out of every six slaves were Muslim. And it was the Christians who forced the Miami to walk from Northern Indiana to Oklahoma, and forced the Navajo to march to Bosque Redondo, and then butchered hundreds of Arapaho on the banks of Sand Creek in Colorado. Yes sir, they sure like to talk about the other people, but never themselves. Jesus must have had something to say about that?
     
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  7. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I really don't know what the obsession with Hillary is.
    After, I believe, four years of investigations by multiple agencies, she was found to have done nothing illegal.
    Multiple people were found to have done similar things as Clinton did, including another Secretary of State who is a Republican, and he faced no repercussions at all.

    And she lied! My God! She lied once or twice yet you voted for and support a man who has been documented to have publicly lied at least 15,413 times since taking office as of Dec. 10. Or an average of 14 times a day.
    A man who uses unsecured cell phones, gives away state secrets to Russia, has secret meetings with Putin, refuses to believe his own intelligence services, publicly asks foreign nations including Russia, Ukraine, and China to interfere in our elections, frees war criminals, etc., etc..... and was impeached....and you're going to vote for him again!

    And people in this thread want to talk about Hillary Clinton.
     
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  9. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Under Islamic rule in the Middle Ages were given the status of Dhimmī, or protection as people of the book. Many Jews fled to Muslim countries as they were persecuted in certain Christian areas.
    Jews have been persecuted by Muslims but not for 1400 years.

    Same with Christians. For over 400 years half the Christian in the world lived under Islamic rule.
     
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    The Republicans spent half a BILLION dollars investigating Bill & Hillary! Now they want Ken Starr on the Supreme Court!
     
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    Half the Muslim world lived under Crusader occupation for quiet some time, until Saladin defeated the Crusaders. I mentioned it not really knowing if the Ku Klux Klan membership has heard of Crusaders?
     
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    We have the KKK in our community . They don't like hippies . But , what's it like for
    them when they pick on me ? Ha ha .
     
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