im done with christianity.

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Proven fact or baseless christian belief? Reference?

 

If Slutter said it, I believe him!

And Christians say Pagans have no sense of faith... BAH!

 

It's a psychological thing. And it mostly is if you have something to believe in it allows you to be a bit happier, have less depression and what not.

doesn't matter the religion but having a religion or spirituality will make someone happier for the believing thing and for the community ties

 

Placidity is not happiness.

 

Who did this study?

I've never believed in any kind of god and have no more depression than any other non-depressed person.

 

just like it's a proven fact that a drunk person is totally euphoric compared to a sober person?

 

LMFAO

 

it is indeed true. if it wasnt true, then there would be no followings as there are. religion that brings worse life than no religion will fall. however a religion can EASILY improve a persons outlook. you cant be lonely if jesus is always there to talk to. you cant feel unloved if god loves you no matter what you do. you cant feel like your life is going nowhere if you are going to an eternal paradise when you die. right?

its very simple.

so it is very much like saying a drunk person will be more euphoric than a sober one! almost a parallel case in fact

 

My apologies ~ acting on assumption.

In anticipation of such "documentation" of "Many research studies", I offer the following link & quote as brief pre-emptive counter example, admittedly from the singularly christian perspective, but relevant all the same ~

Excerpt ~ How I escaped 20 years of Christian indoctrination by Fuzzy Quark
source :-
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pmurray/exchristian/Stories/0290.html
home page :-
http://www.geocities.com/fuzzyquark/
For as far back as I can remember I was told by my parents, my wider family and church leaders that born-again Christians went to everlasting paradise, and everyone else went to everlasting fire and damnation in hell.................................
Eventually I reached a state of complete despair, I knew I wasn't a good enough Christian and expected to end up in hell. My only hope was that I would get around 5 minutes notice of my death so that I could make a quick last-minute confession and scrape into heaven. However, I thought that God would probably see through this and deny my this opportunity...........
I have told my parents that I don't hate them for preaching these hideous doctrines to me, as I know full well that they were only passing on what was preached to them, and that they had my best interests at heart. I agree with Richard Dawkins who says that religious fundamentalism is like a virus that is passed from mind to mind, infecting those who receive it and replicating itself just like a biological virus.


Excerpt ~ My Deconversion Story http://www.daltonator.net/durandal/religion/deconversion.shtml
I came to the conclusion that, if I believed in Christianity, my motives and actions would always be subject to question. I found that I believed in God "just in case," which is the absolute-worst reason to embrace a belief. I was living a lie. Would I be doing the right thing because it was the right thing to do, or because God told me to, and, if I didn't, I'd burn in the afterlife? I couldn't live with that kind of moral questionability looming over my head, even if I was the only one doing the questioning. I found that I could be a moral person without a selfish god telling me what to do. I reasoned that, if the Christians were right about everything, that I'd rather present myself for judgment as an honest non-Christian, rather than one who merely professed belief in order to avoid damnation.................
I am happy to say that atheism has made me a much more free person. I no longer live under the yoke of a god, the Pope or any religion. I am free to be my own person. I have a standard of morals to live my life by (human rights), and religion never enters into my decision-making process. I don't have to worry about going to Hell or Heaven, because I know that they don't exist. I am also sexually-free. The deletion of religion in my life and the substitution of human rights-based morality has allowed me to experience new things without fear of divine retribution.

 

true. But, question: did miracles ever happen to you? Did you ever get healed through God's power? DID YOU EVER have a personal relationship with God? A covenant?

 

Cardiologist Randolph Byrd conducted a ten month study on healing through prayer (reported in Southern Medical Journal, 1986) with four hundred patients in the coronary care unit at San Francisco's General Hospital. The first group was prayed over daily, the second group was not. His results found that the first group were five times less likely to need antibiotics, three times less likely to experience pulmonary edema, did not need the use of a ventilator and fewer patients expired.

Dr. Will Mayo of Mayo clinic made the statement, "I have seen patients that were dead by all standards. We knew they could not live, but I have seen a minister come to the bedside and do something for them that I could not do, although I have done everything in my professional power. Something touched some immortal spark in them and in definace of medical knowledge and materialistic common sense, those patients lived."


Ryu is correct in saying that few people who possess his Spirit and desire him with all of their hearts will fall away.

 

From my experience, people such as the learned Prof tend to cite that which supports a stance or belief. It's a part of human egotism, I think, to be the person with all the right answers. I was once like that. My son is getting over being like that, and my son-in-law is still like that but there's hope.
I think the fact is, there are likely as many for's as there are against's the effects of religion (which is a problem in itself, because if pro's are cancelled by con's, what's the point? zero!). It's just that it really hasn't been unbiassedly tested (if that were at all possible!)

The same types of results are attained when clowns visit children's oncology wards, so it could be a human contact thing rather than an asset attributable to prayer.

 

This is very possible. Religious people, in general, worry a lot less and go through life with the confidence of getting into heaven after it. And in addition to that, they have a book that tells them what to do, eliminating the need to think. It's quite obvious that the less you think, the more you live.

 

Did you? The answer to all those: No.

by the way, good job changing a subject that didnt agree with your book.

 

christianity isnt how we are raised!
its seeking god for oursleves anyway....if we are raised with christian values we are not christian,unles we descide to follow and discover god oursleves

 

http://www.wholistichealingresearch.com/References/FAQ.asp

 

Yeah, I did. I'm sure Epiphany and most other people here have witnessed/received miracles, healing, etc...

And I didn't change the topic. It's obvious that this person didn't, another proof that he/she didn't have a covenant.

 

the power of placebo is incredibly underestimated by most

 

What's all this "covenant" clap-trap? JC never mentioned anything of the kind. And don't bother citing any NT book other than Mark ~ it's the only 'original' (1 century) NT book. The rest were based upon mark and added to so as to falsely 'authenticate' an ever more embellished myth over time.
Miracles? Every moment of time is a miracle. What are you on about? Miracles are for every person every moment ~ for those with eyes to see, that is! They certainly aren't nor ever will be confined to some doctrinal christian mind twist. They are for humanity, not christianity! What an insult to God to suggest otherwise!

 

No covenant=no christian

Miracles...with miracles I mean things that shouldn't be possible, but do happen. For they are supernatural, done by God.

And you're confusing Mark with John, he's the one whose conscidered 'original' with skeptics. (eventhough all are authentic)