I'm Bi and proud

VG was also making the point that I was attacking the gay community because I mentioned that bisexuals aren't accepted by a small percentage of the community at large and that I've been on the receiving end of that, and then going on a personal attack with a bunch of assumptions about me that he presumably took from stereotypes. Thus proving that there are elements of the gay community that don't like bisexuals, himself included.

If he was making that point about me not baby crazy (again, something he was saying with certainty without knowing more than the bare basics about me - age, orientation and marital status) then that's the one time he was right about me with his accusations.

I'd rather eat a shotgun than procreate. I love being an aunt and I take pride in being a part of my sister's children's lives. But having one of my own would be hell on earth.

 

Vic, for purposes of full disclosure, I must say that I pulled you off my ignore list to read your reply. I almost never do that. It seems to me, with the exception of our pleasant exchange in the Right Wing Libertarian News Sources thread, you'll only reply to my posts whenever we have a disagreement. I don't tolerate convenient silent treatment from posters for too long before they go on my ignore list. But, of course, they are free to do what they wish.

I partially agree with your assessment of VG. He's quite candid about his prejudices about bis and heterosexuals, anyway. So this is no big news...but it also doesn't mean that his prejudices are false. I read absolutely nothing in his posts that construed a personal attack on you. Quite the contrary, most of it was not directed at you at all, but only pointing out that that's how straight men might view you.

But, back to the matter at hand. Which is the 'baby crazy' label. Bureaucrats have put a law in place which coerces men to put up babies they don't want to put up. With every well-meaning law about private affairs, there's a new behavioral incentive.

It is a no-brainer that many women will make use of mandatory child care laws as a means of income. Ooops, forgot to take the pill, etc.

The problem with political correctness is that, it only tolerates free speech when what's being expressed is in line with neo-liberal directives. So, if VG, or anyone for that matter, points out the obvious (that there are 'baby crazy' women out there who trick men out of their money, and their number isn't small by any means) then a mob of party line voters will throw in the strawman that he thinks ALL women are this, that, or the other.

So, I hope you appreciate what kind of clusterfuck we have in our hands here.

 

I'm sorry if you thought I was giving you the convenient silent treatment. That wasn't ever my intention and I apologize for that. Honestly, I think you're a very smart person. A few disagreements aren't going to change that. In fact, I think that aside from those disagreements, we could probably get along pretty well on this site. We probably agree more than we disagree. I just wasn't agreeing with you on those particular posts.

I agree with you completely on the free speech thing. The double standard of political correctness always pissed me off.

And maybe VG wasn't attacking me personally, but he seemed to be using me as a stand in for women and bisexuals, and I do take that personally.

 

Oh. Thanks for setting me "straight". :love:

 

Fair enough. Friends then.

We seem to have a lot in common, it would be a shame otherwise.

 

And thanks for the +rep Cherea.

I may have missed judged you Sir. Was about to respond and quote myself here, that I never accused VG of saying Vic was baby-crazy. My response was to

and to interject my opinion about the general use of that term.
While also agreeing with the point made about overpopulation or "breeding".

 

No problem. It would seem I misjudged your post, as well. My apologies.

 

Get used to all the drama; only if you let it draw you in I did at one point then I thought nah; I am who I am and my counselor has helped me realize this , I did accept me for who I am my peers may or may not. Bi men have it harder because we are supposed to be Alpha males, find our female mates and procreate? I have children, I have a female wife and I have a boyfriend. Like I say I am not GAY, I'm BISEXUAL, I love her and I love him that's what makes me different. Society says if a guy sees a guy as attractive and would like to be with him or date him, he is a Queer, fag, homo, a blank sucker, a woman want to be. I have heard it all, I am becoming used to it all, I work in a male predominated career where I have to wear boxers, boxer briefs, whitey tighties to be a real man and fit in. Myself I prefer the fag string bikini style which a guy seen me in the bathroom at work with my pants down fixing my junk and tucking in my shirt and did not look away, thongs my favorite or the Gay commando style? I believe if you look in the pants of all the men or women , look in their hearts they will be wearing some type of bikini underwear or nothing at all, they are the ones who cannot admit they are at least BISEXUAL.

 

I am bi-sexual and proud but not sure how to make friends? I am 26 female from Milton Keynes and need to get out on the scene, only recently come out, always known but tried to hide it... not any more lol

 

I'm pretty sure that everyone has been into bisexual at least once in life...

 

Says you.