Illuminati??

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by RaggaButterfly, Oct 17, 2008.

  1. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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  2. Nikalaus

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    Agreed. Believe it or not, I have a gut feeling Zecharia Stitchin, David Icke and some of these other cats are in on the scam.

    The title of Icke's book says it all.

    "The alice in wonderland of the world trade center"

    I'll explain my point later. Right now this miserable slave to the system has to go work.

    * leaves the room flipping both birds in rebellion towards "the man" *
     
  3. Nikalaus

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    To conclude the above... After much reading and careful study of how this organization ticks... I have come to the conclusion that the coup is as follows.

    9/11 was meant to create a multitude (large ammount) of people with bitter feelings towards the establishment. NOT Terrorists. ... ... ... right? WRONG. it's both. they want both...

    ...Of course in true NWO/Illuminati fashion the confusion between both masses is the idea.

    So the goal is to create a social structure with yet another divinding line seperating two large classes of people. pro and anti establishment.

    They want both!? YES... This is why people like Alex Jones, Micheal Moore, Micheal Tsarion, David Icke, etc etc etc are NOT IN JAIL.

    So why to they want this?

    This is where my recent ramblings on project Blue Beam come into play.

    The upcoming engineered war between these two classes is going to bring society to its knees, and will bring about a cry for peace at all costs.

    This my friends is where the one world government with the new age doctrines and fancy false flag operations such as projecting holographic images of space crafts and religious figures to the masses is going to usher in the age complete slavery with the RFID's.

    That's the coup.

    Or at least that's how I have broken down everything i've read thus far. Ordo ab Chao. Always look at the synthesis effect on the masses of conflict.

    So my point being don't take every single word these Conspiracy theorists have to say... it's yet another very clever, very dirty, very very very dibolical, evil, just plain down right attrocious 1/2 truth... the same 1/2 truth's the conspiracy theorists are teaching you about. !? !? !? Isn't that beautiful!? (INSERRT SARCSM HERE)

    The "truth" is out there. Just try and keep an eye on who they are eliminating. People that have a chance of stopping them are taken care of, make no mistake. If we look at what these people where doing and how they lived. We may have a shot at figuring out the WHOLE truth.

    That would be one way of going about it. However this is all so mind numbing I will be on another hiatus from the Hipforums for a while in the near future.

    Let's face it. we all gotta grieve in our own little way ... one way or another. This lifestyle is fucking killing us. Forced labor, money, war, oprresion, slavery, sweat shops.

    I'm most definitly a Utopian thinker. Most would call me a dreamer. But given the right society man would be good by nature. I'm convinced. There is no Evil in the heart of a newborn. It is learned or developed for survival. PERIOD.

    LONNNNGGG SIIIIIGHhhhhhhhhh
     
  4. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    Project Blue Beam is very interesting.


    I think its important not to write off all conspiracies as disinformation, as ignorance can get you into a lot of trouble.

    Based on your post, Nikalaus, I think you would be interested in the Venus Project.

    http://www.thevenusproject.com/

    It is supported by the new Zeitgeist Movie: Addendum, which I also highly recommend.
     
  5. Nikalaus

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    watched it last night... i'm deliberating on it. This was the first i here of this project. Like all great things my first gut reaction is what's the catch. But that is because i have been trained/conditioned this way all my life.

    I am coming to understand this dilemma. the one of ignorance versus gullibility. there is an extrmely thin line between the two in my case.

    It is sad and attrocious to say but if the founder or prominent memeber of this project were to be eliminated then i would become a full fledge suporter. Definitly inetersting to keep a VERY close watch on.
     
  6. neodude1212

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    man, you guys must be baked...
     
  7. stalk

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    fuck 'em all
     
  8. Nikalaus

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    LOL I HONNESTLY wish i could. Im drug free
     
  9. drew5147

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    Incidentally, I havent done drugs for more than two weeks.
     
  10. shameless_heifer

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    We are not baked bc we say it.. we are baked bc it has been said.. there is a difference..I know I don't do drugs by choice.. strictly green for me..am an herbalist.. there are things going on in this Universe that we know nothing about..the ones in power I mean the real power are like the Magician... they capture your attention by waving their wands in one hand while they are doing 'dirty deeds' behind their backs with the other.. playing the flim flam... I was born in 1950.. just when this was coming to light, or got more public attention.. with Roswell and Hanger 51 in the media and the electronic age cusping.. a huge leap in evolution occured and consummerizum manifested.. new appliances, gadgets.. plastics and metals, Color Television.. hoovercraft toys.. and on we went into the Space Age of the late 50s and so on..
     
  11. shameless_heifer

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    I think I can talk about this now, as both my parents are deceased and no harm can come to them.. and what I say is only hear-say from what my father taught us since we were small children and was common discussion at the table.. My father was an electronic genius (I take after my mother) and was always inventing things tecno.. audio/visual type things.. He had a stepup van with all this equiptment in it.. scopes and meters, testing equipt,There were no jobs in texas in the late 50s, so we moved to so cali, were my father got employment with Rockwell Inlt. which was government contracted for the Space Program.. they turned him down at first bc he did not have a high scholl diploma, in fact he only went to the 8th grade.. but when they looked at his scores on his IQ and other tests, they reconcidered and called him back.. his scores were higher then their's were.. they realized his potential and sent him to night school to get his degree so he could work for them.. in 1960 he was transfered to Anahiem to a branch call Autonetics and worked in the communications division.. Their project was Apollo.. and the Minute Man... My father also studied the bible and had many a debate with my uncle who was a babatist preacher.. as a few yrs went by the discussions became more about Flying Saucers, Aliens, Revalations and Armogeddon..My father could not directly say that they existed bc he was sworn to secrecy as a gov empolyee..Top Secret..he took an oath.. he was a man of his word.. altho he could not say.. "Hey.. there are flying saucers and Aliens I have proof" out loud to us.. he did like Noah and told the wall..He pointed out scripture that coinsided with the theory of ETs.. He understood that was where Science and Religion met..He 'trained' us for yrs in survival and taught us how to shoot, hunt and fish.. he also taught us self defence.. and we were good little sutdents and learned well.. He was prepareing us for what was to come in our lifetime.. What we face today and in the near future.. As we got older we understood more of what he was telling us, in the earily 70s.. His message got more urgent and he began to tell us more..He told us (me n my two sisters) around 65 that there were UFOs and there was many Aliens here.. he was convinced, he worked for the space program.. he had access to that imformation.. He worked on HAL.. wall to wall computers with all their secret imformation.. he knew all their secrets.. He told us about microwaves and lasers.. he told us about mind control and microchips..he told us that the technology they were experimenting with was from UFO tech.. from UFOs they had captured or shot down..My father was a man of integrity and would not comprimise his befiefs.. he would have never told us a lie.. never, he would had rather rip out his tongue then to lie or perpetuate a lie or scam....he was nobodies fool either.. he did not talk about things he didn't know about.. he was a quiet man.. a deep thinker.. when he had something to say that he could back up with fact he stuck to his guns.. and people listened..By 73 he retired and told us even more of the government and what was going on.. he told us about the Illuniati and the Bloodlines.. he told us more and more about the Deal made with the aliens in trade for technology.. He told us to go to Utha to the Snake River and hid in the caves there.. they were lined with lead and 'The Microwaves' could not penatrate them.. he opened up more n more.. like a flood of imformation came forth from him.. then in 75' he was Blue Beamed on Christmas Eve there in front of me, my two kids my mother and my husband. There is so much more he told us.. but this is all I can say for now.. I am still pissed bc they blue beamed him.. he was 59.. a yr older then I am now.
     
  12. drew5147

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    what happens when someone is blue beamed?



    what is it like?
     
  13. Rollin24/7

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    Shameless heifer, did he ever talk about the trilaterals, trilateral symbols, or the plans of the government? Did he ever say tht the aliens were breeding with humans?
     
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    PsyGrunge Full Fractal Force

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  16. shameless_heifer

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    What's it like... well it was like.. we were talking about bible prophocy and my father stopped in the middile of his sentance and kinda looked off in the distance across the room..then time seemed to stand still.. we were like frozen in place.. my father struggled to stand, like he was fighting gravity.. Our eyes were fixed on him..we could not speak or move.. as we watched.. he managed to pull himself away and move into the next room..as he enetered the room it was like all the air had left the house and there was like waves going across the room.. kind of like the waves you see when heat is riasing up from a hot road.. then he dropped onto the floor.... We were then what it seemed like.. released from what was 'holding' us and went runing into the room where he dropped.. our heads were spinning as we did CRP.. he was dead.. We were confused and unsure of what just happened and our grief outweighed our fear.
     
  17. PsyGrunge

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    what IS blue beam, when it's at home?
     
  18. Nikalaus

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    Sudden unexplainable heart attack. That's what happened to Monast. Or so I read.
     
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    Thanks for the info... Although I still ahve a hard time wrapping my head around this for myself. I would like your recommendations your father instructed you on survivalism. Additionally what do YOU recommend? Currently i'm studying electrical as well. I want to know solar and wind power generation technology inside and out. Then its a question of choosing a good location, and then in order shelter, water, food.

    That much I know. Where do you go from there...?
     
  20. shameless_heifer

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    He did try and show us on his techno devices he developed. with all kinds of geometrical shapes, diagrams different vibrational tones, color patterns.. but we were not hyper-mathmaticions and did not know what we were looking at, other then what my father was relating to us.. He did talk about cloning.. but talked more about using artificial insemination.. he did say what was the agenda.. that was what the race for space was about.. to have a place for the Illuminati n cronies to excape to.. leaving a tortured earth behind with labor camps and expermental research facicilties.. underground places and undersea 'cities' that existed for thousands of yrs.. he did not come out and out and say we were to be used as a food scorce but he didn't rule out the possibility.. he didn't want to scare us to death.. but one could read between the lines.. He talked about Aunanki and Enki and the battle between Michael and Lucifer and how Lucifer was cast do to earth to rule..Luficer and his "Angels" cast down and woe the earth.. altho he was not in mind of the fantacy version but the scientific proof.. He believed them to be what is now called the One World Order.. run by the Illuminati The Blood Line of Aunanki.. He was still deep in 'translation.'. in mathamatical terms that we were not advanced enough to comprhend.. He showed us.. but we didn't undrestand the magnitude of the intricate web of deciet that was taking place.. that 's why he didn't freekout when we turned hippy bc he felt that it would be our generation that would be faced with it.. and we were anti-government...so we had a chance.. we werent brainwashed.... As I see more and more intence study in this area of course.. It only fortifies what I have known my whole life and causes emergences of recolection of things my father discussed with us.... We became very 'spirtualy' inclined and studied many religions over the yrs and philophocy/prophocy.. He also talked about China and it would be them that ran the world.. but more as laborors with the established Bloodlines being the leaders... gaining all the wealth and power..... all these memories keep flooding in.. all the things that finally connect.. the things that have come to pass and the things that are yet to come... The ones that are left on the earth after the take over will be the ones to restore the earth.. He told us about the assinations of the Kennedy Bros and MLK bc they were uniting the ppl and 'they' cant have that.. devide and conqure..
     

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