If you're in PA call your representative about House Bill 2090

Discussion in 'Opiates' started by AmericanTerrorist, May 30, 2014.

  1. AmericanTerrorist

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    It's a bill that's sitting in the house right now waiting and hoping to be passed (for PA). It involves being able to give addicts/drug users and their families, etc.- naloxone/Narcon for home use....which I'm sure most people here know can save a life when you find someone who has OD'd as obviously this is what they give people in hospitals to get the opiate out of the receptor and the person starts breathing again almost right away.

    This would obviously save A LOT of lives if it gets into the hands of families, etc.

    Also attached to this bill is the good samaritian rule. Which would basically say if you call 911 after finding someone has od'd and you've been using or there's stuff in the house, whatever.... you cannot be charged for trying to save someone's life.

    So call your representative in PA and get the message out! This is an IMPORTANT bill and It really should be passed NOW!!
     
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    This is a little ridiculous..

    So after they rip all the aluminum siding off your house, fall out OD and come back to life, they can do it all over again.. Fuck that.

    Have you seen what heroin is doing to our communities. Just recovered from the crack cocaine epidemic and here comes the pin cushion people.

    If Ya think thats cold..

    Stop letting junkies shoot dope on your property, being part of the problems ,, not solutions..

    Putting rescue drugs in the hands of civilians < leads to more Hard drug abuse. It will not save lives, only delays the inevitable..
     
  3. AmericanTerrorist

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    There are studies that show that in communities where Narcan is available to family, etc. opiate use has not gone up and has sometimes even gone down.

    In any case, yep, the epidemic is getting bad. However I don't think "just letting people die" is the answer. As someone who has personally rescued someone from an od twice, I cannot say that I wouldn't do it again. Meaning... if this person ever od'd again I would want to save this person and have the best chances possible. This person has been off opiates- on suboxone-for many, many months but as Phillip Seymour Hoffman showed, you can have a LOT of time clean and still end up relapsing/using again. I don't believe that we should give up on people and just let them die. I do not allow anyone to be doing those things here but if someone would do something without telling me and I found them in that situation, I'd still want to save their life. Also as someone with a kid and another on the way, I know that now days because of the rx opiate thing and the opiate epidemic in general kids are trying these things earlier and earlier. No I'm NOT worried, obviously, about my 3 year old. But I know when my kids get older, as much as I would NOT want them to get into opiates, if one of them does and I'd find out by finding one of them in a state of OD I'd want the best chance possible to save their life. Fuck that just letting your loved ones die. I'd try to get a kid in that situation some kind of help and be there for that kid. But in any case, I can't see the just letting them die.

    I DO agree that the epidemic is getting way out of hand.
    But I don't agree that people should just be let go.
     
  4. AmericanTerrorist

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    Also this bill is in the house BECAUSE there is an epidemic and something should be done.

    We just differ on the "just let them die, it'll eventually happen anyways" idea.
     
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    Opioids, not just Heroin are a major problem in "our communities". Have you ever met an opioid addict? Nothing is going to stop them from shooting up/popping that pill/ sniffing that line. I am no expert on this, but I do believe that if they are willing to inject an impure substance (That is already illegal) into their bloodstream that its going to take a lot of willpower to quit.

    Quite frankly, Im surprised that someone with as many post under your belt would come out with a position like this (I do recall seeing you in psychedelics a lot).

    What is your experience with opioids/addicts so far? I do not mean to sound insulting to you, but im just kind of surprised that your against a bill that would save lives, even if those lives are junkies.

    EDIT: I feel like the good Samaritan rule would be an insanely good idea.
     
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    :)
     

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