If you're atheist why brother so much with G-d?

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by jmt, Sep 7, 2010.

  1. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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  2. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    I think there are problems using politicians' speeches to figure out what they believe, because they lie like hell. Was Sadam Hussein a devout Muslim? He purported to be one, but I doubt it. Ideologically, the Nazi movement, especially as espoused by figures like Himmler, was heavily influenced by Teutonic pagan mysticism. The Nazis probably saw no conflict between that and Christianity, of course with an Aryan Jesus. Is the KKK a Christian organization. Its leaders and members would say yes. Most Christians would say it's the opposite of Christian.
     
  3. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    I think we can disregard the REAL beliefs of people like Hitler and the KKK representatives because of the simple fact that they have followings.

    They lied, yes, and people bought it. People bought into false and twisted data which is easily disputable at best. They murdered and oppressed millions, and why?

    Because they like how the ideas made them feel.

    Because through those feelings, they are able to disregard logic and falsifiable science.
     
  4. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    sshhhhhh dont tell him that.
     
  5. Lostthoughts

    Lostthoughts Thostloughts

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    (sigh)...

    I'm fully aware that the holocaust probably wasn't caused by the bible..

    but you're saying things that directly oppose the quotes I'm siting, without any evidence or explanation, and without even acknowledging the quotes,

    normally, I think you're pretty cool, but in this thread you're pretty much full of fail. numerous times you've stated false or misleading things as facts, and you've rarely even attempted to use any logic..
     
  6. RastaJah

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    Holy Jesus, not that old saw! You forgot to mention Mao and Stalin, silly!

    George Bush is a Christian and he's got the blood of a few hundred brown people on his hands. So what?

    I am an atheist, and I could not care less what anyone believes. Until, that is, their beliefs become the foundation of public policy. See, this is where all you Anti-Atheists seem to trip up. You think we've turned to atheism because we're mad at god, or because we hate god. That makes no sense.

    Watch the following clip and tell me religious belief is harmless:

    http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/11/do_you_feel_safer_now.php
     
  7. JustCallMeSeb

    JustCallMeSeb Member

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    I agree atheist preaching or crusading is as bad as any other form from any other religion.

    However, I think that there is use in letting people know the science that's out there that may help them make a lfe-saving decision (i.e. Jehovah's witnesses and blood transfusions). Alas, I'm falling into that category and preaching as though science is the truth...
     
  8. JustCallMeSeb

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    Hitler, Mussolini and possibly the Ils of North Korea are/were all athesits but it wasn't necessarily WHY they commited the acts they did. Even IF it was why, does that mean atheism is bad? Any ideology/religious viewpoint is open to interpretation and can be manipulated into hatred and evil (however one defines acts of evil). Even within your metatheory you can be pre-disposed to a thinking which condemns others in society.
     
  9. Geriatric Delinquent

    Geriatric Delinquent Member

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    I see. Like how Christians generalise about non-believers, eh? ;)

    Furthermore, I have noted that Hip Forum atheists, as opposed to li'l ol' agnostics me, don't support a Final Solution for Christians, as Christians do for atheists and 95% of the rest of humankind.
     
  10. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    vice versa some ones religion.
     
  11. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    Those Pastafarians are such posers...:biker:

    ZW :mickey:
     
  12. Geriatric Delinquent

    Geriatric Delinquent Member

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    Fer Satan's sake, fellas. It's all s-o-o simple.

    It is de rigueur for decent people to hate genocidal despots, right? Ergo, decent people should hate Bible God, whose murder and mayhem in the Bible makes Joe Stalin look like Tinker Bell.

    So Christians, Kikes, and Muslims - whether they worship the patently evil Jewish God because they truly esteem the mass murdering old rapist, or to save their craven arses - who love Bible God, are logically infinitely worse than card carrying Nazis.

    Kill all of the criminally insane cunts, and let Satan take His own.
     
  13. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    satan sucks too...
     
  14. Geriatric Delinquent

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    BULLSHIT HE DOES!! According to the Bible, He (PBUH!!) is humankind's solitary defender against G-d and his evil celestial host.
     
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    Yeah gotta say, God really did scapegoat Satan. Put all his shit on him.

    "what your sick with cancer?... Did I design genes badly when I made man in the span of a day?... Nonsense!!! Satan did this to you!"
     
  17. Geriatric Delinquent

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    Satan, God's Subterranean Whipping Boy.
     
  18. paperairplane

    paperairplane Banned

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    Goddess is beyond all reason!
     
  19. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    Exactly like Christians generalize about non-believers.

    BUT

    Atheism VS religion is a false dichotomy, because there are atheist religions. It makes it painfully clear that people who attempt to generalize about atheists don't understand what it means.....its as if they are quarrelling with logical discourse.

    I go out on a limb to be the best heretic I can be sometimes, but to be honest, I am weary of the calculating left brained state of mind I abuse around here. I go to class, the movies, dinner, and everywhere else with "Christians" and "Muslims" and they don't judge me.

    Its only when the subject comes up. When our left brains call the right one to check the numbers....i hate that shit.

    Suddenly everyone stops laughing at things that don't make sense, and life is no longer something we seek to enjoy.
     
  20. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    Really? can you name some? just curious...:confused:

    ZW
     

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