If you're atheist why brother so much with G-d?

there you go again. you've got such a full picture of me from just a few posts on the internet. way to go. if i'm so unintelligent why are you wasting your time arguing with me?

 

and of course there are overlaps between atheism and agnosticism. the definitions of both overlap in certain respects. some qualities about agnosticism apply to atheists. that doesn't make them agnostics at large.

 

Qualities of Atheism?

Unfortunately the word belief describes rejection of an idea like god also.

Fortunately that doesn't change the fact that the word Atheist only exists as a distinction.

 

dnairb:

Yes, it just happens. True also, that the force of our individual desire cannot counter what appears to us as nature.

However, I hold open the possibility (to present it 'in here' as reality would run against such holding) that our consciousness is capable of achieving a kind of chain-reaction in itself, based completely on the fact of this endless physicality, motion, recycling. A seeming suspension of matter, where our feeling remains above the 'thought' of perishing.

Have you ever ingested psilocybin?

 

It is not GOD an atheist is arguing against (obviously) it is the blind faith of the follower that is being critiqued.

 

I believe that once the body has perished, there is nothing left beyond the physical remnants of the body. Consciousness perishes along with the body; the "soul" or "spirit" that some believe reside within the body would also perish. (I reject the idea of a soul in any case - I believe we are merely physical entities)

I have never tried psilocybin or any other hallucinogenic or psychedelic drugs.

 

I would argue with that - an atheist is without god, and may or may not argue against others' belief. An atheist would only reject the idea of god.

 

dnairb:

You don't reject the idea of consciousness though. I am not talking about survival beyond 'death', just survival.
The human body as all our bodies. I am not convinced that our waking consciousness is its final state.

How do you feel about prohibition?

 

i didnt read the whole thread yet, but this post pissed me off, so im responding to it.

First of all, Hitler was roman catholic, and second Hitlers crimes weren´t because of religion.

i.e. His atheism didnt drive him to kill 6 million jews, it was the fact that he was a fucking lunatic.

also, what atheist said that only religion has brought war and suffering?

 

the the whole thread then dipshit.

 

You still haven't answered to the fact that Hitler was a Christian to begin with; and that his actions say nothing of his religion as a whole.

 

LOL

if he was christian he wouldnt be burning jews and have such hatred for them.

yeah Hitler was christian.

 

damn... calm down man, take a :chillpill:

where`s christ`s love?


and ok.. after reading the thread, I notice my post is still completly valid.

- Adolf Hitler, to General Gerhard Engel, 1941

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 3

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 11

- Adolf Hitler, speech on April 12, 1922

and if you feel so inclined...http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm


edit: I also relize my first post didnt make sense at all..

it would apply to Stalin.. but not Hitler, since he wasn´t an atheist.

 

Man, you guys still at it?
Don't make me come down there!
Wasn't a picnic the last time, so I'm not all that keen on doing it anytime soon again this millenium.

 

Bullshit.

If you were a Christian you would agree with Hitler's cause.

Deuteronomy 13:7-12

Jeremiah 48:10

 

So if your athiest it is true that you only hate the Christian Religion.

I cant say if in the new testament Jesus doesnt speak of picking up a sword to fight against enemies but I do know the coming of Jesus was to "upgrade" the old testament and its old fashsion ways. For example in the old testament you would stone sinnners but when Jesus came he asks a group of people if they had never sinned to throw a stone at a sinner and if they did then to not throw a stone. In the end every one realized that the they were all sinners and that you really couldnt go with what the Torah(old testament) said. So what am trying to say is that your quoting these things that Jesus would of never long follow (somethings)from account in the old testament. So I wouldn't take account those things in to create evil.


also the Deutromony verse you qouted makes no sense with your arguement. Those verse talk about being killed for worshipping other gods, when did Hitler go about killing for God? wasn't it for the one and true race the Aryans?


10 “Cursed is he who does the work of the Lord with slackness, and cursed is he who keeps back his sword from bloodshed."

Like I said its killing for God and not for the Aryan race.

 

No. I just resent it the most as it is the one that was forced upon me. Many of the troublesome passages from the Bible are in the Old Testament; which is fundamentally a Jewish text and the Qu'ran has plenty of evil in it as well.

Hm, the stoning story is definitely where you have the most leeway, but the Bible also reports Jesus as saying that he comes not to break the laws, but to fulfill them.

Well, he was killing another religion; but then again - it is technically the same god..

 

Not for anything, but do you know what Jesus meant by that? The feasts given to the Jews were fulfilled by Jesus. Compare what each feast represents and how Jesus matches up with it.

There is a video on youtube called: "The feasts of yahweh" by YahwehsShofar if you want more information.

 

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did you even bother to fucking read my post?

Ill post it again...

- Adolf Hitler, speech on April 12, 1922

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 11