If you do not believe in God, you must not have read the Bible

I'm not sure what you are getting but God said that the Messiah would come from the line of David and he would sit on the throne of David and the genealogies show that is exactly what happened and Jesus had the legal right to do so.

If you had just said; what does the phrase "life in yourselves" at John 6:53 mean, I would have known what you were talking about.

Jesus is just emphasizing that anyone who is to attain to everlasting life must do so on the basis of exercising faith in the sacrifice that Jesus later made in offering up his perfect human body and pouring out his lifeblood.

 

I never considered it that way but I suppose hiding could be a motive for using a pseudonym or nickname. I thought it more an overt offering of personality, not only of mine but of yours also as you interpret the symbol. The word dope has many conjugations and the ones you choose to settle on are reflective of your personality as well.
Is hiding the motivation for your user name?

 

Just because you like to make it up as you go along doesn't mean everyone does, in fact some people can read something and understand that what it says is actually what it says and don't get confused by trying to imagine all the thing it could say but it just doesn't say.

As for your not hiding, sorry about exposing an area of your blindness and fantasy in the posts that you make, I didn't know you didn't realize it.

 

Yeah many conjugations:
dope
dopier
dopiest

 

Is hiding the motivation for my username what?

 

The bold is mine and that is what I am getting at. According to the story, god is the father of jesus but jesus takes on a statutory claim of the adopted fathers lineage. He does not emerge of that line in the flesh. What I am saying is many people are participating in developing this appearance of statutory legitimacy. These were not done as prophesied as much as they were done to fulfill prophecy.

You still have not addressed the question, faith in a symbolic gesture does not give the enlivening experience. Not everyone who says to me lord lord will enter but those who keep my sayings.

This is the way I am taught.
The body itself is a symbol for metabolism. Preserving our warm blooded temperature, the fire of our life, is the underlying primary directive of our experience of creaturhood. There is not one thing that we do not do for the body to the extent that we consider it our body or our concern. There is no activity that we undertake that we do not undertake in consideration of our own good. Take it and eat. It is an experience we all share. This is digestion in all it's forms, in entertainment, in interest, in gainful employment etc., and this often, remember what I have told you. The symbolism is identical in meaning to loving god with all you can muster. Like wise with drinking from the cup, the chalice of the heart, as often as you are engaged with your own desire for anything, just in the same way I have devoted myself to your care, remember what I have taught you. The value of life is had in the spending of it. The measure you give is the measure you receive, not in linear reciprocity, but immediately.

The redeeming character that is available to all men regardless of temporal affiliation can be developed through the practice of these principles.

What principles?

Don't take oaths for one. Do not affiliate yourself with systems that inhibit your ability to respond to the urgings of god, or your good urges. When you do this, you divide your loyalty. No one can serve two masters, etc. and on and on. There are more instructions and none of these practical and redeeming instructions have one thing to do with believing in the sacrificial lamb. That belief is a cultural tradition used to distinguish us from them. Intimating that it is is our special traditions that give us special access to god. They are heathen, because they are not washed in the blood of sacrifice. That teaching and the teaching of mercy are antithetical to one another. One demands payment, the other, forgiveness of debt.

That is the fundamental tension that causes the insanity, split mindedness, that presents itself as christianity.

 

Now you're getting it.

 

Is hiding your identity the motivation for using a user name?

 

You interpret the symbols you read.

 

Maybe you should ask your spirit friend why anyone who wanted to have a right to sit on the throne of David would have be adopted into the royal line.

Jesus was not talking about getting an "enlivening experience", you are but Jesus was not.

I can see why you seem to be having trouble understanding what Jesus was talking about.

 

Prove it.

 

The reason is to establish statutory authority. To prove the case for the messiah, to "fulfill prophecy". In the story joseph is not the defacto father of jesus but the stepfather of jesus.

Actually I am talking about the difference between once a year, at the time of the passover, and without ceasing. You needn't try to explain my statements in your own terms because your terms are not my statements.

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I can see where you have trouble in recognizing me because you know only to wash the outside of the cup. No one puts new wine in old wine skins. New wine is the teaching of mercy, old wine is the tradition of blood sacrifice. It is not what goes into a man that defiles him, but what comes out. It is not the consumption of symbolic flesh and blood that redeems but the whole investment of your flesh and blood.

 

What does fly by night mean?

 

Why ask me, you are the one who wrote it.

 

Unleavened bread to symbolically represent Jesus' sacrifice.

 

No.

No.

What story?

Perhaps my terms are not your statements but I didn't use my terms but quoted your statement and how it seems that you're saying that even your quoted statements are my terms. You seem a bit confused.

That is your problem, I recognize you all too well.

 

Because you asked me to prove it. What if I am not there to provide the meaning? I am demonstrating how you interpret what you read. That is, you compare what you see to a model of meaning you have developed for your self through focus and experience.

Since fly by night is too difficult how about smick luf glippen?

 

In your example, if you did not provide the meaning of smick luf glippen then we would not understand the meaning behind it. The Bible on the other hand does provide meanings to what is written and it is possible to verify through cross reference and other methods.

 

You asked and I told you.

You asked and I told you.

The story in the bible.

That is because you are interpreting what you read according to a model you have established for yourself. I am not the least bit confused as to my meaning. I do try to be succinct with my words. So you do not address in this comment what I say, but only your impression of what I say, your interpretation of what I say, how what I say, seems to you.

The difference between what I am taught and what you have been taught through what is known in the tradition of biblical studiers or scholars as "proper exegesis" is A ritualistic observance once a year on the anniversary of passover and being perfect even as our father in heaven is perfect. Eating something even symbolically as a condition of salvation is antithetical to the teaching that it is not what goes into a man that defiles him but what comes out. Perhaps you do not recognize the other side of that linguistic equation, it looks like this, it is not what goes into a man that redeems him, but what comes out, which is in turn wholly consistent with the teaching the measure you give is the measure you receive.

How could that possibly be a problem to me?

 

Before the bible has any meaning at all to you, you first have the model that is endemic to the language you speak, a model developed through your focus and experience. The bible did not teach you that language, but through the understanding of that language you can interpret the symbols written in the bible. If you see symbols even though they are made of characters you know and you don't have an experiential model for their particular arrangement on paper, they are meaningless to you even though I had independently assigned meaning to them. You learn to extrapolate meaning over time through association with experience.

How do you know the meaning of the symbol for drink water?

How then do you know the meaning of the symbol for the indwelling of the holy spirit?