If You Could Create A World...

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by TheSamantha, Oct 29, 2015.

  1. TheSamantha

    TheSamantha Member

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    ....would you create one where the creatures not only eat each other, but one where they devour each other in a knockdown, no-holds-bar fight to the finish? In a way that's bloody, gruesome, mortifying, and painful? A way that completely mandatory?

    What about rice? Bread?

    What gives?

    Note: no I am not an animal rights activities all torn up about the treatment of animals (though I respect them). This is not about complaining, it's about logic and really, plain sense.
     
  2. Moonglow181

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    Would I create a world like the way it already is for the most part? No....I am not barbaric in my soul, so why would i create that?
     
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  3. TheSamantha

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    I take it that you're not Christian because then a supposedly omnibenevolent, omnipotent, and omniscient being did what you called barbaric.
     
  4. Sleeping Caterpillar

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    despite how it happened, it's pretty impressive how a multi-million species like ours function with ecosystems and heigharchies while sustaining populations for each species
     
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  5. Meliai

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    I think it is amazing how symbiotic all species are, but I don't believe in intelligent design. It does seem pretty barbaric to think of someone just designing a world where everything feeds off some other life form.
     
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  6. I'minmyunderwear

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    creating a world is a pretty huge task. honestly, i would probably fuck it up even worse than our world.
     
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  7. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    only one BIG problem with that type of world, what is it's main, fundamental source of energy?
    On Earth it is the sun and plants utilize it to make food and then other life forms eat the plants and then something else eats that critter and on and on.
    so where are these critters on this world of yours getting energy from in the first place?
    gotta have something on the bottom of the food chain.
     
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  8. NoxiousGas

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    funny as silly humans seem to be the only ones that have a problem with it.
    Every other critter on the planet seems to just take it in stride.
     
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    bacteria must be really pissed off..
     
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  10. Moonglow181

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    But I am God creating the new world, according to the hypothetical question, so no need for science. Everything just gets their energy from soaking up the sun and breathing in the air...,osmosis.
    :p
    God does not need science. Being a bit fecetious to make a point.
     
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  11. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Uhhmmm, how do you figure God does not need science?
    if there is a God than all this stuff we call "science" is merely the "how" of God doing stuff.
     
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  12. Moonglow181

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    Doing what exactly?
    Having everything feed on something with death as the end result for all?
     
  13. Meliai

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    Well like I said, I personally find it amazing. Humans appear to be the only creatures who believe in intelligent design which could explain why other creatures don't take issue with it.
     
  14. Moonglow181

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    Like Desmond morris has said.....when other animals are faced with life threatening situations...there is the fright, fight or flight response....they do not think about it any other times that we know of...humans think about it all of the time....so......they try to write all kinds of scenarios about after lifes to fight it.
     
  15. themnax

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    i wouldn't. and i've never understood why that seems to be the majority market for role playing games.
    granted excitement can be fun, but its a throw away, and i certainly wouldn't want to live there.

    i would create a world in which sane, logical, considerate people, create fascinatingly minute and intricate tools and toys, always exploring the frontiers of real and useful knowledge.
    i don't have a problem with things eating each other and us eating them, but i do have with not treating them as well as we do ourselves, for any other reason.

    i have an even bigger problem, with how expecting excitement to gratify more then creating and exploring, is destroying the very means of sapient existence.

    i do not believe the people of my world, would want to live in cities. they'd want and create such technologies, as would allow them to live in harmony with nature, without need them.

    little villages surrounded by forest and linked by solar powered narrow gauge railways, that would be my world. people always figuring out how to design things and then building them.
    they wouldn't go in much for competitive sports, creating and exploring are just so much more gratifying. much the same goes for cars, unless they were completely silent, didn't consume resources, nor require paved roads, nor would they go in much for anything like television or wars, nor trying to impress each other by anything they didn't create themselves.

    yes there would be some pain, some injury, but no one would have to know only these things, nor fear for their lives from day to day until with advanced age, there time was to come.

    (why is this in christianity? it has a much more general context and implication. it really is one for all beliefs and perspectives. i would certainly not have responded to it, if i didn't think that it did. i do not believe that anything that is rational and good, would ever want to be feared or worshiped)
     
  16. Moonglow181

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    I am taking the reincarnation route right now as fun thought. My new cat, Crusher is a reincarante of a cat i lost due to being crushed by a car in 2003 named Willy...same body....tail.....color.....temperament......The first time i saw Crusher, i said..."Willy!"....lol

    Of course, Finnegan cat is a reincarnate of a cat named Chico who also got crushed by a car...of this, i am certain..........I wonder when Petey , Lucky Lou, Oscar, Mewey, Houdini(oh, Houdini is Minxy as a female this time),..Houdini was Chi Chi reincarnate....so he is back a second time.........

    Zee...i wonder when I will see them again.....:p
     
  17. Kick Frenzy

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    Because if the Christian God created this world, it was in line with the OP.

    But I like your vision much more. :)
    (Granted, if you grant free will to your creations, your planet could end up just as screwy.)
     
  18. Kick Frenzy

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    Wow... there's no "hug" smiley?
    I was going to say that if we had a "hug" button, I would've clicked it for you... but instead I'd just post ":hug:".
    But apparently, there's no hugs???

    Well then...

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. BlackBillBlake

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    A world peopled by solar powered robots might do it. But I suspect it might prove to be rather dull.
     
  20. Asmodean

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    If you perceive God to be a some kind of human-like heavenly father he's bound to appear harsh and mean to an almost inhumane (and unfatherly) degree :p Maybe it is worthwile to see God as something other than that. Why would the creator of the whole world, e.g. the universe be and act like a human being? ;)

    I fully agree with above posts. I think it is extremely worthwile when we tend to perceive the world as in OP to be aware it is 'merely' our human perspective. The world and it's creating force are not barbaric, this is our perception of it at times. Is nature harsh and unfair? Yes it can be harsh, and yes it is unfair. But why exactly should nature be as fair as we can imagine it? Isn't nature fair enough with everything keeping on and spawning new generations regarding wether its a predator or not?
    If I could create a new world as complex as the one we live in now it would of course surely look different as I am a human just like the OP. Happily it is a hypothetical question as we can't create a world as complex and fantastic as the one we actually live in and are part of.
     

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