If You Cloned Yourself ...

Discussion in 'Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, etc.' started by Duncan, May 25, 2004.

  1. Duncan

    Duncan Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    ... are you certain that it would have the exact same sexual orientation and turn ons ?
     
  2. monosphere

    monosphere Holly's Hubby

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    Not necessarily. Why are there identical twins out there with differing sexualities? That's one of the reasons I sometimes question the genetic disposition theory. But then there are pleny of twins with same sexuality. I think it's just a crap shoot.
     
  3. Defence_mechanism

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    it would depend on how they were brought up. i think its a mixture between nature and nurture.

    by the way, by the subject of this thread i thought you were going to ask something totally different. there was a thread in the old forums that threw a question out there: "if you cloned yourself would you be attracted to/sleep with your clone?". it freaked me out a little...:eek:
     
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    I agree with the part nature part nurture theory. If I was bought up in a horribly repressive environment then I might have just ignored all homosexual thoughts....and then it might have built up and built up, and I might have gone crazy and ended up killing someone... So it's probably better like this.....
     
  5. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    if i cloned myself i think ide have to sexor myself up

    is that masturbation still?
     
  6. Taylor

    Taylor Repatriated

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    I don't know. my sexuality is really fluid anyway and if I was cloned then things might end up being different.
     
  7. Duncan

    Duncan Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I've been giving this some reconsideration. Since I'm not sure about the genetics factor of homosexuality, who can tell? Maybe there is some sort of horoscopic factor involved... although I don't think I would want to see everyone born at the same time and place as I.
     
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    No because the body may physically be like mine, but thoughts and feelings come from one's one point of view and outlook. The other SativaDiva would see things differently because her life would be different.
     
  9. Rigamarole

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    I thought the question was going to be, "if you cloned yourself, would you have sex with yourself?"

    My answer to that question of course is a resounding yes! And I'm not even gay!
     
  10. SageDreamer

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    For me, the key word is "certain."

    No, I'm not certain.

    We still don't know why some people are gay and some people aren't.

    When it comes to very specific and individual turnons, my theory--and it's just a theory--is that they are the result of lots and lots of different experiences and influences. A clone wouldn't have the same input that I have, so those turnons probably wouldn't be exactly the same.
     
  11. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    if you had sex with the clone would it be incest or masturbation?
     
  12. Ocean Byrd

    Ocean Byrd Artificial Energy

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    Highly doubtable... Sexual orientation? I dunno, I don't think it's genetically based... Turn ons? No way... unless, of course, you make a clone of yourself that contains all of your memories prior to it's creation.
     
  13. Ocean Byrd

    Ocean Byrd Artificial Energy

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    XD

    I'm gonna go with masturbation. :H
     
  14. melyn

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    If I cloned myself then i'd wonder what the hell had gone wrong with science and either kill myself or the clone, as to whether the dead part of myself would be a lesbian i'd probably say yes, but I can't be certain so i'd say maybe.

    And I could'nt have sex with it, it would feel like incest to me.
     
  15. james q

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    hope so
     
  16. james q

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    i'm not sure about that. i remember my first juvenile experiences with oral sex. they surprised me at the time in that they were driven by such strong desires i knew nothing about. we all understood what to do and what felt good and so on, yet we were too young to have had these kinds of experiences before (at least in this lifetime). so where did that intuitive knowledge come from?
     
  17. SageDreamer

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    It's difficult to say where intuitive knowledge comes from.

    Anyhow, if you have good first experiences with oral sex, you're going to seek those experiences out later. If you have bad first experiences with oral sex, you're not going to be as likely to want to do it again soon.

    If your clone has experiences that are profoundly different from yours, your clone may develop different turnons.

    Does your clone have the same past lives that you do? I can't answer that.
     
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    i used to think we are a blank sheet when we come into life but i don't think that way anymore. freud called it 'drives', other ppl called it 'intuition'. i don't know what i'd call it.

    not sure if that's always the case. a lot of what they call repetition compulsions are based in abusive experiences of early childhood. hence the person who was sexually abused as a kid may well abuse others when he grows up despite the fact that the original experience was prob'ly traumatic. but yes, in my case, i had mostly good, if not naughty, first experiences with sex but the social paranoia around homosexuality wasn't such fun.

    or different ways of expressing and acting out similar turn ons?

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    inasmuch as you share dna, then i'd say yes u would. memory would derive from the one source. but as u say the life experiences would be v different and individuated and separate 'subjectivities' would exist from birth. but what i say might also be a lot of bs. i find it tricky understanding the one of me...
     

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