If you can think demographically, you are an enlightened human.

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by GreatestIam, Jan 17, 2019.

  1. Running Horse

    Running Horse A Buddha in hiding from himself

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    A grand word vomit to skirt the obvious contradictory nature of your beliefs.

    If you are a shining example of the modern Gnostic I can safely say that you fit in perfectly with the political impetus of the day. A fine layer of grandiose egoism to cover the simmering insecurities with which you battle inwardly & a desire to oversimplify as much as possible in reality so as to maintain your twisted worldview.

    The organization of Christianity did bad things to people in the past, sanctioned bad things done to people, in the past.......therefore ALL Christians must be bad people........

    An organization of Islam does bad things to people & has for some time now........therefore all muslims must be bad people.........

    An organization of white skinned humans did bad things to people of color in the past.........therefore all people of white skin must be bad........

    An organization of white men does & has done bad things to non white men in the past.......therefore all white men must be bad.........

    Your generalist reductionist logic is laughable

    I will give you credit where credit is due. You certainly have a grasp of your brand of demographics.........

    Peace
    RH
     
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  2. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    Oversimplify, --- no.

    Calling evil evil, when some goof is calling evil good, --- yes.

    We are certainly all bad, as you suggest.

    But those who think more demographically will know how to distinguish bad from good.

    They will show where genocide, and the Gods and religions that use it, are evil.

    Regards
    DL
     
  3. Running Horse

    Running Horse A Buddha in hiding from himself

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    Show me absolute evil oh knowledgeable one......

    Or absolute good oh enlightened one........

    When you can't, which is inevitable, I'll say it again........oversimplified

    Peace RH
     
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  4. McFuddy

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  5. Running Horse

    Running Horse A Buddha in hiding from himself

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    @GreatestIam Nothing in reality is black & white. What one see's as evil another will inevitably see as good. All "evil" is subjective just as all "good" is. From acts perceived as evil good always springs & vice versa. Both are necessary to the human existence & neither can exist absent the other.

    This is why cold hard facts, as proven by a multitude of human observation, are the only reliable form of measurement for us. If a measurement must be done, such as one in demographics, it must be divorced from such subjective notions as good & evil. Any deviation from this skews the results, making them unreliable, at best.

    As an aside, the accuracy of human observation is a highly debatable topic as well, however, it is all we have, & such a debate is likely best left for another thread

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    RH
     
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  6. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    You are correct in that I cannot show what dist.

    Go you want points for such an idiotic request?

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    DL
     
  7. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    Only the unwise will ignore that our emotions and thinking are closely tied.

    A graph just shows facts.
    Facts must be interpreted and it is thus impossible to take the subjective morality out of what we are looking at.

    Especially economic graphs, given that some think that to impose poverty when the nation has more than enough wealth to stop it, is an evil act against the poor.

    Regards
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  8. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Seems to me Running Horse has the better of this argument. Talk about a linkage between thinking and emotion and the need to interpret facts is a non-sequitor to his observation that your arguments hinge on logical fallacy, namely the "fallacy of composition", inferring qualities of the whole from qualities of a part.Fallacy of composition - Wikipedia
    It is illogical to conclude that because some Christians, Muslims, etc are evil, all are. And it is illogical to conclude that because our perceptions are colored by subjective morality, we can't make relatively objective conclusions by compensating for these tendencies-- by employing logic.
     
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  9. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    If you see a group of KKK walking up the street, all flying the same flag, will you think that some of them are good?

    If a vile religion and their sheeple are walking up the road flying their cross, how can you think any of them are good, seeing as they support their vile religions?

    Try using the logic you think you have.

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  10. Running Horse

    Running Horse A Buddha in hiding from himself

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    No......because not one of these imaginary KKK members is good or evil. They simply are

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  11. GreatestIam

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    Blacks will disagree and so do I.

    Thanks for your simplistic answer that does not answer the question of how to rid ourselves of the vile mainstream religions.

    Regards
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  12. Irminsul

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    What if the group of KKK people are really just marching to church? Was it appropriate of you to judge them as members of the KKK and then insinuate how an ethnic group would feel? I've seen the pictures, the footage and read the stories about those churches that look all KKK but they really aren't, so I don't think it's fair to immediately judge anyone for wearing a white cloak with a pointed hat.

    More than likely the pointed hat was used much like the steeple of a church, it helps energise emotion and frequency as it spirals up the steeple at faster speeds as it approaches its vortex.

    I wouldn't look at someone in that dress as necessarily evil in anyway, I believe if they're in a church environment or a prayer environment, they are most likely trying to achieve enlightenment by the same teqnique I speak of with the steeple effect. I feel we've just lost this as part of ourselves as time goes on we distance ourselves from our spirituality and the guise is on purpose because 8 billion enlightened humans on earth could become catastrophic in terms of spiritual awareness. We are better off as slaves instead.

    This is why I believe sex was looked at as sinful, sex produces off spring, and as the world got more populated a long time ago I think that Chief gods were worried about possibly becoming overthrown by their creation. Strength in numbers!
     
  13. inthelibrary

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    God is not partial. The man or woman who has a reverential fear, respect and love and listens to him is acceptable to him.
     
  14. Running Horse

    Running Horse A Buddha in hiding from himself

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    Do we really need to go down this road again Greatest? The general consensus is that your views are too simplistic not mine. I'm sorry that the world doesn't conform to your idealized view of it, but there's nothing I can do. It is what it is
     
  15. Okiefreak

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    KKK members are unified by a racism and bigotry. That's what the Klan stands for , and why they would be on the march. Christians, on the other hand, are a highly diversified aggregation these days, ranging from bigoted Christian identity hate groups to MLK to fundamentalists to televangelists, to Pentecostals, to mainline Christians, to peaceable Quakers, to Catholics, to Eastern Orthodox, to Progressive Christians and LGBT-accepting churches, , etc. Trying to generalize about over 2 billion people is impossible. There's nothing vile about Progressive Christianity. Quakers have done nothing harmful to anybody. Many Christians are about peace, love and understanding. Nothing "vile" about them. On the other hand, anti-Christian ranting sounds pretty vile and hateful to me. Is that what the I Am cult teaches its members to do? It would be hard to distinguish it from so many modern cults founded by charlatans out to make a buck by persuading the gullible that if they hand over their money, they'll learn secret truths from the ascended ones that they are God--a Gnostic counterpart to Joel Osteen's prosperity gospel. Nothing to feel superior about. Founded during the Great Depression by Guy W. Ballard, paperhanger, stock salesman, mining engineer and promoter, and his wife, Edna, a part-time medium, the I Am cult was on the decline until the New Age Movement and the internet put esoteric cults back in business. What good have you done for others? What good do you plan to do for them, other than try to sucker them into your cult by attacking Christianity?
     
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  16. GreatestIam

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    You say God is not partial, then list all the things that make him so.

    Real good thinking their pal. Not.

    Tell us you were joking and are just bad at it.

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  17. GreatestIam

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    For evil to grow, all we need do is say, it is what it is and simplistically move on.

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  18. GreatestIam

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    Propagating a belief in the supernatural with lies is vile.

    Do you agree?

    I have told sheeple the truth of the lies that they are being asked to swallow.

    You might want to ease up on this personal garbage as you as showing a small mindedness.

    Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. Eleanor Roosevelt

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  19. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Only if the propagators don't believe what they're propagating. Would you agree that propagating a belief in Saint Germain as an ascended master is vile? Did he have a natural life span?



    But all you seem to want to discuss are Christians, in the most bigoted terms, laced with invective. I agree, that's evidence of a small mind at work. If you think you're enlightened, you're deceiving yourself. The real sheeple swallow the garbage dished out to them by the Saint Germain Foundation.
     
  20. BlackBillBlake

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    There are over 2 billion Christians in the world, and you're saying each and every one is bad?

    No accounting for the fact that many of them may be children, who are Christians only because born into a Christian culture. Many others only nominally Christian for similar reasons.
    And my expereince with Christians wouldn't make me think of the one's I've met as bad people - unenlightened in some respects yes, mistaken perhaps. Certainly no worse than many non-Christans. Not of course that there aren't bad people as well who say they are Christian.

    Hard when you're hungry and homeless to see the Salvation Army person who gives you food and arranges a shelter as bad because they don't share your extreme and immature views.

    Like the man above said, you need to try to stop seeing everything as black or white. .
     

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