If You Are Over 30 And You Are Poor

I never said this is my position, genius. I just put the topic up for discussion.

 

I'm convinced that is more about who you know that anything else including credentials and experience. I recently changed careers due to meeting the owner of a company and getting an 'in' on a job I wasnt qualified for at the time. I certainly didn't earn my new job title and I've been thinking about this subject a lot. Before this job I was successful and independent because I worked hard and mastered my craft. Now I'm successful and independent because of a very easy but well paying job that was handed to me. I worked my ass off doing my last gig but things could easily have been different for me. I could have suffered from a sudden injury or maybe not worked as hard. I could be homeless or poor right now.

 

I am not involved in the military in any way shape or form.

 

School, whatever type it is, is more about learning to learn and think and handle yourself, and showing that you're capable. Of course being able to network and talk your way into things matters a lot more than previous training, as long as you're quick and can pick things up - it's not like the boss doesn't know, they just also know that you'll figure it out (or, they'll fire you if you don't.... they can't lose).

It's just a little growing up time and life orientation. If you make it you make it, if you fail the problem isn't that you don't know what was on one stupid test and it will cripple your career, it's that you're a fuckup who can't make it through college. Some people think they're really cool or smart or college is really easy or meaningless because they made it through easily - get over youself and stop stroking your ego, the point was the people who failed, not you who passed.


Think about if you're hiring and you have two choices: someone who graduated college but in the wrong field, and who seems enthusiastic about life and learnig and improving everything, or some jackass who did great in the right field in colege, but who you suspect has a shitty attitude about how easy it all is and how little it means and who thinks they somehow won by not taking it seriously and how they'll just coast through their job because everything's easy and it's just who you know and just a meaningless piece of paper, yada yada yada........ which one do you hire? I personally would choose a radically unqualified individual with the right attitude and understanding of life (after all, they made it through college, they can obviously learn what they need to), over someone who is technically qualified but, in terms of attitude, a fucking loser and a dower to boot.

 

When you don't know anybody it is good to have some credentials and experience to get your foot in the door. But it is true that a lot of the time the ones who know the right people 'get their foot in' sooner and with more succes

 

Yeah , whatever...not everyone has the option nor the desire to move to the middle east for a job.

You want to ignore the economy, and put all the blame on the underemployed then I say you are an ignoramus. Please stay the hell abroad, we already have enough fuck-heads like you screaming "I got mine and the rest are all bums"

 

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I didn't really get that attitude from his posts.

 

I think that's a valid point but I might even take it a bit further and say that I would even hire someone who didn't finish college over someone who did if I thought that person was the right person for the job. I know a good number of very smart and successful people who didn't finish college.

 

I didn't say that in order to avoid looping back and handing everything off to the "see, it's just a piece of paper and it's easy and doesn't mean anything and I'm so cool because I was wasted and graduated without knowing anything" crowd.

College opens doors, it doesn't mean you can't go a lot of places without it, or that it will automatically take you great places.

 

Sharia's all good and cool and fine with him, because it doesn't affect him and he's able to breeze through it and gets what he needs through good ol' boy connections anyway.

Sort of like some people's opinions of college.

 

i've never had the guts nor the training to start a business. when you're working for someone else, you just have their ass to kiss. when you open a business, its the whole public of your market you have to kiss. i mean i've seen businesses that didn't and that was really dumb. they didn't last long at all. and businesses should have to. i mean after all, why should i give money to someplace if it isn't for what i want?

 

You mean that you want them to kiss your ass?

 

well of course that's an exaggeration to make a point, the business of business is what it is, a lot of which is monkey business. but i do wish more of them wouldn't be trying to sell people things they neither want, need, nor have the slightest interest in. people don't need to be sold to. just catalogs with honest specs. and if they can't be bothered to print or post that, to hell with them.

 

Well find a place that actually has opportunity...that is actually accessible to the poor, I don't feel like there is any good reason for people to be poor unless they really f***d some people over and without a doubt put themselves there all by themselves, though in this society it would seem much of the time screwing people over is rewarded with wealth.

 

Unfortunately that certainly does seem to be the case.

 

You just never know what the future holds. A friend of mine has a degree in religion history (no idea what the hell he was thinking). Today he's an insurance adjuster. Another friend of mine doesn't have a degree but he owns a brewery that is set to start distributing nationwide pretty soon. He's also a business consultant who damn near a genius.

Funny story about him....when he was 18 or 19 he worked for a printing company that employed over 100 people. His older brother told him that he needed to get his shit together and think about his future. He advised him to talk to someone who has a job that he may one day enjoy doing and ask them what steps he needed to take to move in that direction. So my buddy....being the optimist that he is.....walks into the office of the company vice president and asks him what he thought. The guy was a real asshole anyway I guess but he told him the first thing he needed to do was get the fuck out of his office and get back to work. Fast forward about 5 years....the company is struggling and goes up for sale. My buddy put together a business plan and secured funding and he bought the fucking company! Then he personally fired the VP and took his office, desk, etc as his own. (He would go on to turn the company around and sell it for a tidy profit)

As for me and college...I went to college to be a doctor. Didn't become a doctor. I started my own company instead which I still run. But I did gain something from school. I had to grow up and take it seriously. I screwed around in high school and just did enough to get B's and C's mostly. In college, I was paying for it myself as I went so I was forced to figure out how to do that. And since I was paying for it, I took it more seriously and worked much harder. I had a 3.98 gpa in college....much better than I ever did in high school.

 

I'm not ignoring the economy, I'm describing it. People counting on getting that job at the auto factory are ignoring it. People counting on unions to get them high wages are ignoring it.

As for what I do, I don't advocate being an expat. I just enjoy it.

 

I live in the Middle-East. I like living here, but it will only be for another year and a half and then my wife and I are thinking Angola. I didn't invent Sharia. I don't even support it, but it isn't particularly onerous. Frankly, it isn't my business,

I have a firm belief that people in the developed world have all the chance to go as far in life as their personality and talents will take them.

 

"I got mine so whatever"

 

The world is a hard place. Nobody gave me anything.