If You Are A Confident Man, Why Are You So?

I dont get why you are saying it

 

cynicism ... you should learn to recognize it.

 

You have said that several times (we noticed, we don't agree, you don't have to repeat yourself). I said several times that not all people there are and live the same. Not ALL guys are chasers, not even there. This doesn't mean they don't talk to girls or are just as unlucky in love as (people like) you. Not all women leave it to the guy to take the initiative and not all women wait with sex before marriage, even there.
It doesn't matter that it's not a western country, and it has a conservative culture where it comes to dating and men-women gender roles: yes, it means that the majority is like that. Just like you seem to live your life as a slave of the prevailing or advertised mindset of your culture/society. But you should realize that you don't have to be concerned with the majority of your country.
It's all about finding the person and kind of woman that wants the same as you, or that you can connect to. I agree it is harder to find someone in a society where most are not like that (duh) but that doesn't mean that guys and girls don't flirt, date, fall in love and have sex with eachother (yes even before marriage) in your country at all. Not that you and your country NEED western culture, countries or mentality but there are many western-oriented people in Turkey as well. Also women. So if you are looking for such ladies you have to put a little effort to it or else you just keep hanging in your current situation.

 

In any normal place the brothers would have been put in wheelchairs. Or coffins.

Looneys who obsess about their sisters are generally jerking off over them. Or worse.

They weren't "conservatives". They were disturbed wackos.

 

But since I have nothing to offer, all of them should stay the hell away from me. Was that what you were emphasizin'? I wish talking to the opposite gender was as easy as talking to the same gender. Why are women so different? For example you can talk to your same gender easily and make conversation outside even on a bus but when it comes to talking to a woman, there is no way! For example you can talk to men on bus that you dont know but you can't talk to women on bus that you don't know. It is an example on how different talking to a woman is than talking to a man. Besides, I can't even talk to girls in my school

 

Do you really think so?

 

You mean I'm not sure?

Ofcourse I do.

 

it is an example of how all men from turkey are gay, thats why they can talk to each other. all men from turkey are gay, all of them. you are from turkey, therefore, you are gay.

 

It has nothing to do with being gay. Talking is not something like having sex.

 

Depends on what you're talking about. "Hi...nice weather we're having today!"= not gay. "Hi...nice weather we're having today! Would you like to fuck me in my ass?"=Totally gay...even if it's on the bus. Even in Turkey.

 

Why would I say it? I am not gay.

 

to show you an example of gernalizations which you are making but dont seem to recognize.

 

I was talking about how much more difficult to talk to the opposite gender than the same gender. Is it also the same in the usa? I gave an example the bus thing. I can talk to a man on bus but I cannot talk to a woman in bus. It was just an example.

 

No, the emphasis is that you can not blame others for the fact that you have nothing to offer, AND that only you can change that. It's all in your mind that you are so worthless. But even though many people can tell you this you have to understand yourself that it is your mindset that's keeping you where you are.

Talking to the opposite gender IS just as easy. Especially if you don't think with your penis and when it is at the bus stop and about a casual subject. It's all between your ears that you think there's a difference. There's something on YOUR mind (subconsciously or consciously) that keeps you from trying to talk to them normally as you would to a guy. I hope for you that it is just a matter of time.

You just have a too strong notice of what you would really like from women to talk casually to them about a normal subject as if they were a guy. Guys that are not bothered with that can talk to anybody anywhere if they want. It's because they are not overly concerned about what a woman might think of them or how they might use this contact to get sex or something. I know you said you do not always want something other from a woman than to just talk and chill with them but really even though that is not the mainstream custom in your area it is your mind that makes it comletely impossible. If you want to succeed with certain things you at least have to make sure you are trying something to improve your chances. It seems you are just complaining and blaming others. Which is why people (including you, as we were not the ones who called you stupid etc. at first) perceive you as they do at this point in time.

 

It is not. Talking to a woman is quite more difficult than talking to a man.

 

Because I am a woman most people view as a man. Yet I deal w/my daily activities. That takes tons of confidence and guts, plus a lot of heartache :-(

 

pacific, I am sorry it causes you alot of heart ache. Don't let it. Embrace who you are.....and then others will, too...

 

It is for you and guys like you. Nobody is denying that. Now what we are telling you is that the obstacles that make this so difficult are mainly in your mind. If you would really regard them as a fellow human being (just a person you meet on the streets like another guy) you could really talk to them about the weather or some thing about music etc. etc. the same. The problem for (guys like) you is that you feel too strong that this can't be done. Because you and/or the girls you are trying to talk to are too aware of your real (perhaps subconscious) motivation/feelings/thoughts.
It's like 10% of your problem is the way your society is and how gender roles are, 90% of your problem is how you are dealing with it.

 

If I am confident at all,it is because I realize that each day may me my last,and focus my at times dysfunctional willpower towards the release of my suffering from moment to moment.I wish this realization to all sentient beings in this lifetime,so that we can learn to suffer with life-fulfilling infinite resignation and joy for which there is left to behold.Peace,brothers and sisters,oh pretty please.

 

I still think most of the girls are too conceited in Turkey.