whatever Libertine, it still takes faith to believe there's nothing out there. I am not listening to any Christian propogandists, i do have my own brain and God-given intellect. plus, i still dont believe that you dont believe in God.
lib said "Stop listening to your Christian propagandists and find out the TRUE meaning behind atheism before you go with theirs." meaning that i am taking CHristian propogandists views on atheism. But i have more of an open mind than to only go by what THEY say, i have seen a few different interpretations about what atheism is. I am not a separitist CHristian that secludes herself from the world to avoid evil, becoming completely irrelevant to the people around me. Christian or not, i have my own opinions, and they dont always stem from Christianity. again, thanks for saying something nice about me. i have really grown to respect you.
I'll say it one more time...s-l-o-w-l-y.... DISBELIEF is not a "belief". That's why it is caused "DIS". And the Bible DOES talk about atheists. Need proof?
yah! crack open the BIble and find the word Athiest.:H NOT believing in anything is the same as Believing in nothing.
You're impossible. Disbelief = Belief? Psalms speaks of those who say no god exists...calls them "fools". How tolerant!
guess you've met your match then. it's not about being tolerant. Following Christ does not mean we all get super-tolerant. GOd is not looking for the Flanders. I'd say you'd have to argue with God about that verse, but you believe He's not there. So you'll either have to keep it inside or put Christians down for believing such an "intolerant" perspective.
I don't believe the Pink Invisible Unicorn isn't there. I DIS-believe such an entity exists until there is evidence of such. Same goes for "God". I don't "believe God doesn't exist", I disbelieve in any "gods" until there is evidence of such. Disbelief is not belief. It is a LACK thereof.
so if you DONT believe it ISNT there, then you DO believe it IS. You had enough evidence to convince you once. And i bet it wasnt the tangible stuff you're oh-so-interested in finding NOW. I am going to interpret your behaviour now for a minute, ok, so please dont get your back out and start throwing your quills at me for making a "personal attack".....I think you DO BELIEVE in GOd, and are pretending to be looking for tangible evidence of GOd because you know it's NOT there, (because you used to have a heart aside from the one you so often talk about which pumps blood, and you LOVED God with that Heart, and believed with that Heart, but the waves got too high)...and use that against Christianity to cover your own ass so you dont have to admit there's a GOd, therefore freeing yourself from having to deal with yourself and your weaknesses and need for forgiveness. You couldnt beat the mockers before, so you joined them instead. You looked for your only escape. And you RAN. .....BUT! i could be wrong. *shrug* but still! you must have reasons why you dont believe, so you BELIEVE in those reasons.
Yes, authority figures, my upbringing and social conditioning, but I broke free. I had enough evidence of SANTA CLAUS too, once. Wrong. Wrong. It has nothing to do with emotional jive. I have already told my story in another thread. The psychological approach is fascinating, I must say, but completely wrong. I dismissed religion when I saw it for what it was...bullshit. The reason I have for disbelieving something is always the same= NO EVIDENCE.
people liek you will never get the evidence you are looking for. Seems like the only way GOd could reach you is to blind you, make you deaf, take your tongue, your nose, and make your body numb. then, possibly, you would finally have an open heart and have no choice but to use it. byebye Libertine, i sincerely wish you the best.
If I went blind, deaf, dumb and numb for 24 hours and then back to perfect normality, and I see writing in mid-air that wrote, "This was your evidence. - God". That might constitute as a reason to consider the existence of "God".
i dont think i am being pompous. As soon as a Christian really speaks thier mind, or sincerely speaks from thier heart, we are SHOT DOWN, kicked, mocked, and told we are being pompous. How are we supposed to discuss anything if no one will give us the slightest bit of respect? I am not acting superior. I have been speaking from my heart today and have even been brought to tears because of my frustration. so i'm out for awhile. Thanks Fuzzy for being so nice and seeing the good in me, as i have seen the good in you. Thanks for listening to my songs and i admire you alot. bye for now.
I sincerely wished she would've stayed and brought some evidence. I would like for someone to come along and just give some evidence and answer some questions without all the emotional warfare.
Still looking to people to provide you with evidence of God's existence? All you will ever see is the 'actions' of men if you don't know that God controls all things, even the 'actions' of men such as yourself. Is it emotional warfare to remove your protective garb of pride?
Ahh...ok. Kharakov, asking me to just assume "God" without evidence is like asking me to assume that 2+2=5 for a minute. When the evidence shows otherwise and no amount of emotional, pseudo-intellectual sophistry will change it. Sorry, ain't happenin'...