If Obamacare was really as bad as cons say...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by rjhangover, Sep 25, 2013.

  1. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    Along with the people involved, the culture, etc....
     
  2. rjhangover

    rjhangover Senior Member

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    So many are signing up for Obamacare, the websites couldn't handle all the Americans that want it. The stock market is up, because the insurance companies and medical industry stocks are going up. Every day, the cons look more like the Grinch. By this time next year, the voters will know it's time to get rid of those assholes. AMF!
     
  3. pensfan13

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    if obamacare had rules in it that encouraged employers to hire people and give people more hours rather than encourage unemployment and remove full time employees wouldnt it be......i still cant say a good thing but wouldnt it be not so bad.
     
  4. scratcho

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    130 billion over budget on the new military-industrial toy--- the F-35. Could pay for single payer if it wasn't for the warmongers and their constant push to harvest the riches of other countries.
     
  5. Anaximenes

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    And I dig this tune: Cristie McVie was even the better singer in the old days when the U.S. was truly ripe at last to have a national health care plan.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j8-_vIplso"]Tell Me Lies - YouTube
     
  6. sunfighter

    sunfighter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Scratcho, that is such a good point. For just a fraction of the waste in the military budget, Americans could afford a much better health system. Remind me: why do we have 30,000 troops in Europe? How necessary is that? How expensive is that?
     
  7. happilyinlove

    happilyinlove with myself :p

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    I've seen a lot of new patients register with our office since Obamacare was instituted. I think its great because a lot of these people haven't had quality medical or dental care in years.
     
  8. pensfan13

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    Makes me wonder what kind of insurance people are getting. My plan has a $1500 deductable and only pays partial for some things. So these people that are not paying for obamacare....who pays for that extra bit that isnt covered.
     
  9. Individual

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    I think the rules were written to accomplish the results Obamacare is producing over the population in general, but they're having to break a few rules to reduce the effects on some of their more staunch 'single payer' supporters in order to allow government to take greater control of the U.S. healthcare system. The end result is to ensure that the money related to providing and receiving healthcare flows through the Federal government. How does that old slogan go, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."? Perhaps that needs rewording today, as it is beginning to sound sexist.

    What I find MOST surprising is that, the young, those who will bear the greatest negative consequences of Obamacare, and most every other socialist program being embedded into U.S. Federal government, have not risen in great numbers against such changes, but then again the socialists have long ago taken over the education system.

    When given the choice of acquiring needs and wants, who in their right mind would shop in the store displaying a sign "Lowest prices", when next door the government store is displaying a sign "Free", meaning paid for by those who shop next door?
     
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    If government funded healthcare was done away with, healthcare costs might have to reduce in order to sell drugs and services priced to what patients could afford. While I have nothing against cutting military spending, after all why would anyone want to attack the U.S.A.? But if any cuts are made I would prefer they be used to reduce the budget, and most every other program should be looked at to find ways of reducing their costs, and in many cases their services too.
     

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