If God Is A Contradiction Then He Does Not Exist

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  1. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    In truth, god is a word for things that could be better articulated without it! Words all die the deaths their meanings do.
     
  2. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    i asked my old dad would he like to answer the 3 questions of
    philosophy ... sure , son , what could they be ? What's true ,
    what's real , what's goodness . To each he answered - God .
    Then he articulated physically with a rising posture of strength
    and determination , not though as in speaking to me , rather
    just existentially .

    kQ c~u io wa~

    another question is can you speak with the life-light ? may thy
    colors dance as words , rising with strength and determination
    and then your beauty is known by all beyond confusion .

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  3. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I wonder if you would say the same for the word love. Certainly words of love so soft and tender don't win a girls heart anymore but devotion speaks out regardless.
     
  4. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    They all can be resurrected as we share our thoughts. Mayan glyph writing is a perfect example. Take your lessons from the world and use them to inform your flights of fancy. The human body operates within a range of frequencies while we are emerging current itself. You don't know anything about death.
     
  5. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    my truth is a set of symbols . sometimes i make glyphs of them .
    god is not one of the symbols yet can be a glyph . if would also
    be a glyph as it is not and in fact i specifically excluded it as an
    elemental symbol . there are 3o symbols in my truth set , some-
    times 31 when i happen to feel the need for a 62nd minute while
    in the forest with no clock . #31 is uniquely spiritual and this one
    is unspeakable and unwritable while it's meaning has been without
    exception understood whenever encountered , then acknowledged
    with a nod of respect .

    respect is a symbol within the truth .

    ... and#31 is physically touchable .

    ... and no other number exists . there is only the designation of within 30
    which is not too many not too few . one more than that is at your pleasure .
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  6. Moonglow181

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    "words of love so soft and tender" win my heart....
     
  7. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    given that we seem to be picking our own definition of "god" in a lot of these arguments, i vote Palgolak!

    “Palgolak was a god of knowledge. ... He was an amiable, pleasant deity, a sage whose existence was entirely devoted to the collection, categorization, and dissemination of information. ... Palgolak's library ... did not lend books, but it did allow readers in at any time of the day or night, and there were very, very few books it did not allow access to. The Palgolaki were proselytizers, holding that everything known by a worshipper was immediately known by Palgolak, which was why they were religiously charged to read voraciously. But their mission was only secondarily for the glory of Palgolak, and primarily for the glory of knowledge, which was why they were sworn to admit all who wished to enter into their library.”



    All hail Palgolak!
     
  8. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    So are you saying they "got arounnd the contradiction" by making God into an abstraction? Does that really solve the problem? It kinda reminds me of "Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus". Grownups think it's clever, but I wonder what Virginia thought.
     
  9. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    How about a nice Hawaiian punch?
     
  10. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    sixty second minute in the forest...
    I know this bugs the crap out of you
    Don't mean to jump the gun or step on toes. Contradiction is a saying, a product of split minded thinking meaning to speak with opposition. Read the language of tikoo. I have never heard some one so eloquent as this, i detect a diet of locust and honey...
    31, three in one. Matter has three properties absorptive, reflective and polarity. The mind is naturally abstract the breath is redundant and the body cyclical.
     
  11. Moonglow181

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    :hurray::rofl:
     
  12. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    #31 may be introduced like this : The spirit of this place - of all the life here and the stones , the sky ...

    what is "this place" ? @O

    home ?
     
  13. thedope

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  14. Moonglow181

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    sorry, dude, you are out of luck...i prefer (mo)

    lol
     
  15. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    the duck insists it's moo

    referring to those happy californian cows all chanting om
     
  16. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    all contradictions begin and end with and within language and the concepts of language and have nothing to do with the existence or non-existence of anything else. both of which equally exist.
     
  17. guerillabedlam

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    The proverbial 'action speaks louder than words' suggests contradictions beginning and ending with language is not accurate.

    If I say 'I have a leaf and branch in my hand' then there is the implication of something that exists outside of the language I used. I could make the same implication by not saying anything and waving the branch and pointing to the leaf. The language is used to suggest the existence of something else, which can be verified in this particular example.
     
  18. Monkey Boy

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    Maybe contradictions being the product of thought would be more accurate. The branch being waved as an experience without thought would be non-contradictory.
     
  19. guerillabedlam

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    If contradictions are a product of thought then non-contradictions must be as well. A claim has to be made for it to be contradictory or not.
     
  20. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    There's rational concepts and irrational concepts. You can't blame a proper scientist for someone else's evangelical shit sculpture, any more than you can blame language and concepts as a whole. Especially when the're such a clear expanse between the bat shit crazies and coherent intellectuals. It is not the contradiction between the rational and irrational that exposes gods nature. It is the contradictions the rational alone see between the different irrationals.
     

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