If God Is A Contradiction Then He Does Not Exist

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  1. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    thedope:
    Psychobabble, bitch. :-D

    Your denial that harm can occur is harmful. But then you are "psychotic in a non-clinical sense" as you say! lol Let's keep it in the field where it belongs then, scribe.

    So you're telling him he is then? It's beautiful... almost. :-D

    LOL On? Where?
     
  2. thedope

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    To crack a nutshell,
    That is because the thought comes first. Doesn't matter to me what you think, but you make it matter or it becomes material when you articulate what you think. Thought, word, and deed.



    So we come to an agreement of terms in at long in fact when it has been so in truth all along, god is that which we invoke.

    Self can only be known by self knowledge being shared. The absence of self is other wise.



    No guaranty either way. Some people think their artistry is license.



    You think it something to be redeemed from?

    What effort to be? Where would I find dispute claiming everything I see as my own? Having and being are the same.
     
  3. thedope

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    Objectionable ****.

    I said reality cannot be harmed. You can certainly feel discomfort.
    Let's do with utmost specificity. That was psychotic. A coined word, one with a peculiar stamp being the bold font portion of the word.



    No I said don't be.



    and on
     
  4. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    No, that I am my only truth is not even dependent on my thinking it so. You still don't understand. "In the beginning was the deed" :-D

    Not all we invoke.


    True, so may the best expression prevail! :-D


    Yes. We can redeem ourselves from anything of life except death.

    Becoming. Having and being are the same, only by becoming what one is.
    You said the 'problem' is fighting over terms. Will you rethink it then, your ownership?

    I'm not sorry to leave so many of your lying catch-cries irredeemable! :-D If you feel hurt by it, I can say to you honestly, you'll get over it. This one in particular: - 'if one defends oneself one is already attacked' is one of the most deranged. lol

    It's a lie whichever way you spin it. I don't insist that reality can be harmed by telling the truth that it needn't be. Your insistence that it can't is a denial, however one looks at it. Once you can speak for everyones reality, by all means do so. Until then, your belief in your lie will continue to harm your potential to realize the truth of the matter.

    LOL!!!

    So, back again then to the suggestion that he is. lol

    lol Again, where?
     
  5. thedope

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  6. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    It's not what I did. It's the deed itself. Alll actuality.

    You seek an order of occurrence. We'll never really find ourselves together while you do. Take care not to nick your own peace there peacenik! Truth is no sword, but it's no blunt instrument either! lol

    LOL, No. The whole defines its parts just as it's defined by them. I don't conflate 'god' with the whole thedope. :-D God's not all we invoke.

    Yourself likewise. And if they clash, may it also please you to discover why.

    All I know of death is 'about' it, not knowing death itself. How you manage to think that I think we can redeem ourselves from death by what I've written here is beyond me. lol

    I asked you where you think life leaves to from the body. You had no answer. Becoming goes on in any case, but life doesn't go on without its embodiment.

    It could really be remiss of me to call you a liar if you're sick. I can't share in your mentality. The fact that reality always remains ours doesn't mean it can't be cut short. Our will that it not be cut short has not yet been realized by everyone.

    This is why in the ignosticism thread you say you've 'moderated' your claim that reality cannot be harmed?! lol That I may deny myself harm does not mean denying its existence, as potential or otherwise! :-D I wish you a merry kalashnikov and a happy new flak jacket!

    lol. Don't fear, I'm not going to hold you to it. Getdatdope is interested in keeping his peace. I'm not sure he has an ear yet for harmonics, no pun intended! :-D
     
  7. NoxiousGas

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    TASTES GREAT!!!!!!!!!!:argue:LESS FILLING!!!!!!!
     
  8. thedope

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    You are mistaken about my timing. I do not look for a beginning. I am practical. For all intensive purposes, the thought come first. This is a fact of our creative ability encompassing the experiential.
    It does. Anxiety is caused by the misapprehension of what is so. I have the uncluttered mind of a tot.

    What do you know about it?

    Let the record be clear I said it goes on. I described how I felt the breath pass through me and on. I have no more specificity to offer save to say the breath and the beat go on.


    Reality can be cut short only in the mind of the insane.



    Why are either necessary or helpful. Your wish is for war warrior not liberation although you are free to fight. You cannot however escape the effects of your own thinking.

    I bring up the NSA as the apex of this kind of thinking. In order to expose unknown criminal elements, everyone is under suspicion.
     
  9. thedope

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    Good at parties!!!!!!!!
     
  10. Avadar

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    Hi Dejavu,

    Thanks for the welcome!

    I would have responded sooner had the subscription notification worked with my e-mail.

    Before I go into your specific questions, feel free to peruse a cosmological overview that I posted just today in another forum debate. Granted, you may have to become a member to view it but it is free to join.

    1. What Original Creator who doesn't exist yet?

    I don't believe I stated that The Original Creator doesn't exist yet. What I was referring to is the Space God who used the energy spectrum of Spirit - often referred to as The Light - to orchestrate The Big Bang. Like the Deist perspective, I have come to conclude that that being is not around at present, but disappeared after the Universe was started in physical terms.

    2. What's lights "judgement"?

    There is a non-living higher power in operation on the Other Side. It operates off of a completely different set of principles than the physical spectrum. Near-death experience research confirms its existence. Often referred to as The Light, The Breath of God, and The Light of God, many near-death experiencers have witnessed it "at the end of the tunnel."

    The following is quoted from a near-death experience research conclusions website:

    The choices we make in life matter deeply.

    Life is a golden opportunity to live a spiritual life in a world of darkness.

    Life is very important because how we have lived our life largely determines how far we can go into the light.


    Source

    The more spiritually advanced the soul, the greater its ability to ascend into The Light after bodily death. When one ascends, one also expands one's consciousness to a higher level of energy, a higher degree of spiritual vibration.

    The Light predates The Original Creator. It always existed and always will exist. The Light represents the only way that consciousness can emerge from nothingness in linear time. Without The Light: there can be no planets, stars, souls, or an Original Creator to manifest a Big Bang.

    We are all judged by the non-living higher power known as The Light whether we believe in it or not.

    Namaste
    Avadar
     
  11. thedope

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    It would plain to say light is that by which all things are seen.
     
  12. Dejavu

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    No, the fact of our creativity is that for all intensive purposes, we think.

    Anxiety is also caused simply by the apprehension of what is so. Your proscribing yourself your own body is no "appropriate use of denial". You have the mind of the man that you are.


    I know we don't return from it. The eternal recurrence of the same is purely that.


    Breath is forever embodied. Life doesn't know how to leave! lol


    That's an insane thought. Reality is only ever its perception.


    No, my being war-like has no final bearing on my highest hope. I don't want to escape my thinking, or my body, as you do.

    Not my kind of thinking at all. My trust extends to everyone. My defence is in knowing it is not always received.
     
  13. Dejavu

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    Hi Avadar.

    You did say they aren't around yet. Now I see you say they were once around. The implication being an ouroborus of existence? If your coming big bang isn't a party should we still want to be there?! I 'see' motion behind light. If we're to celebrate ourselves as creators, we're going to have to get over god. The question why is always answered by the fact of providence not being our only concern.
     
  14. thedope

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    If we don't think what is our intended purpose, to be free of care. Yet our devotion is endemic. Even unto your desire you long to articulate.



    As a child of god I share the peace of god.
    I don't find that to be the case.


    We don't enter into it. You will know this the moment you stop actively denying the persistence of life.

    If life didn't know how to leave the body it would be dead.




    Things exist that you do not perceive. Perception is not knowledge but can lead to it. There is a possibility that food exists over there. I may see something that looks edible and taste it and discover it impossibly bitter. Does that make it not food? The damned caterpillar thinks it's a gourmet delight. Bitter taste did not tell you the plants suitability as food. It only tells you how you reacted to stimulus. Now if you cook said plant, effort toward a desired aim, and remove the impossible bitterness then suddenly it becomes palatable and in the ultimate consummation, nutritious.

    Having and being are the same, grin if you to bear it.
    I need no escaping as the body does not contain me. I learned to think on my own and discovered the power of thought, that none are idle in the creation of my experience.


    Every thought is received and even if you don't claim it, once unleashed someone else will cultivate it.
    Patience brings immediate results. The light cannot be extinguished.
     
  15. Dejavu

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    Your fortune.


    I couldn't deny it even if I tried, liar. How could I know we don't enter into death, not knowing it? I know no return from it.


    Another insane thought. You're fortunate I believe in cures that don't involve anything more than your inclusion! lol You don't even have to call me doc! :-D No, life doesn't always know how to go on living, and as for how it can leave the body, all it has are ideas!


    All I know is existence, but I am not all existence. Perception is knowledge.


    Already said in another thread. The only reason you're uncontained is through being your body. Your mind can't help its embodiment. No thought is idle despite your right to a rest.

    You'll have my reply to this... shortly! I must travel!
     
  16. thedope

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    Great is my reward.




    That is not knowing, not knowinginginging.

    The thought comes first sweetie.




    Perception is not knowledge but can led to it, knowledge is being shared.



    As to cosmological constructions. Vibration reaches to become light. At the speed of light time stands still. Light then is an out of time interval. In the light of consciousness, time stands still before us as we make accounting of beginnings and endings that other wise would not exist.
     
  17. Dejavu

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    That's right. I don't know death. I know no return from it. Nor do I know that we don't enter into it. We never have the right words for those who are dying when we can't prevent it. What I do know is that not everyone is dead. I suppose I shall save my knowing that not everyone dies for when I do! Let it count as unproven belief until then! lol

    It comes. So what's your thought for leaving the body? A return to your self-same life? Loop the loop in lieu of changing form? :-D Or... worm-food? Be open! lol

    You've never yet gone on "record" with your account of where knowledge isn't its perception thedope. lol Your assertion is so lonely! An eternal leading on!


    Wolf shares your 'opinion' on this matter, and you both cut short your own articulation. Nothing stands still before us in light of consciousness, that we become our own time.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FehlHtANvA"]Cleanhead - The Reward - YouTube
     
  18. Dejavu

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    It can be, but needn't be. An admission - I don't know how to teach submission.
    Do not go gentle into that good night.
     
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    patience brings results which are not immediate, but which posses the power of being statistical.
     
  20. thedope

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    Patience is able to accept or tolerate delays, problems, or suffering without becoming annoyed or anxious. That is the immediacy of patience. Everything can be statistical.

    Statistics is the study of the collection, organization, analysis, interpretation and presentation of data.

    Probability is a measure of the likeliness that an event will occur. Probability is used to quantify an attitude of mind towards some proposition of whose truth we are not certain. As to patience we know it's result by definition and a clear brow.
     

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