If God Is A Contradiction Then He Does Not Exist

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  1. thedope

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    Your astuteness kind of belies that but you are right that god exists whether you realize or believe it or not. God exists and is demonstrated in your power of creation. Not recognizing your power of creation doesn't diminish it's power, it just diminishes your meaningful access to it and this is the just verdict heard in the saying, forgive them, they no not what they do.
     
  2. Dejavu

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    thedope:
    We can forgive no-one for killing us. Your verdict has been heard.

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  3. thedope

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    I don't settle for less than everything, that singular.
    So your invocation to good exists whether you say so or not being able to help yourself, but god doesn't exist for you because I say so? Dummy! A moralist would object to your behavior on moral grounds, I only celebrate it.
    I am you and you are me and you and me and we are all together. What is the same is the same and what is different is different and not the same.
    You needn't throw up your hail Mary's you have no cause to suspect non-existence shadow boxer. Thank you Dejavu for looking silly.
    I suggest a form and content comparison,
    Equals the only thing you can't redeem yourself from is the denial of goodness, self denial.
    Are you guilty by anyone's verdict but your own? And does anyone else accept your verdict of innocence having found you guilty?
    Enough is enough Dejavu the same being the same. The least concern is the same as the greatest devotion and the least irritation is the same as the greatest catastrophe. There are no idle thoughts.
     
  4. Dejavu

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    Everything you are, you mean. Or should I pronounce you, most morally, a monster? lol

    No, not my invocation, illiterate, but me as my only truth. If you have to celebrate me by making me out to be a dummy, you're missing out on a fair bit of my celebration! :-D

    No, that the same is the same and what's different is different, means I'm me, you're you, and 'we are all together'.

    Form is content, and knowledge is perception. But get out your microscope anyway! :-D

    No, you never heard me the first time. Death.

    No to the first question, though it's beside the point, as you don't seem to grasp the point in answering the second one yourself... do I then assume you don't want to pursue your hypothetical?

    You seek agreement in terms when loving them is enough. Let's not run on repeat.
     
  5. thedope

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    What is real cannot be harmed but you can be displeased or you can weary yourself temporarily.
     
  6. Dejavu

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    Another lie. You mean well though, even if you know not what you do! lol

    No, what is real needn't be harmed.
     
  7. thedope

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    Most is not everything, man not living on bread alone.
    So you say and suddenly you are full of...certainty, scribe.
    Your the one who suggests he doesn't speak with the power of god.
    The I am I call myself is the same I am you call yourself, and the I am you call yourself is the same I am I call myself and you and me and we are all together ding this. The other is an abbreviation of self.
    Evidently all is in contention or it is agreed to regardless.

    You can say something using particular phrasing. You can impart the same meaning as what had been said in that particular phrasing using different phrasing all together. The meaning is the interpreted content or semantic reality of the words. Though the words be different, form or appearance, there meaning is not. This sameness in disguise is what I call confusing form and content, or judging a book by it's cover.

    I heard you the last time. You know nothing of death. Death has no power over life.
    I would just as soon stick with my statement respectful all the same of your hypothetical which I have addressed. Another round won't change the record. EDM and it's hybrids are boring. I don't know what you assume.
    Problem is people are fighting over them. Excuse me warrior for being a peacenik?
     
  8. thedope

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    Reality can be harmed to what degree?
     
  9. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    i think religion is people's attempt to understand life, and how life works. i also think to learn you must have discussions with others and share knowledge, to truly understand life. no one completely understands life, we learn things from our experiences, others may have different experiences and we can learn from them too.

    not one person on this planet knows it all, and not one book can contain all the knowledge on this planet. in fact, no library on this planet is big enough to contain enough books to hold all of the knowledge on this planet so there u go.

    we learn thru experience, and the experiences of others around us, and those who came before us

    any way we can take in information we are learning ^_^
     
  10. thedope

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    I agree we share our thoughts and I also think the more perspective is taken into account the more accurate the picture.
     
  11. Dejavu

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    You're all that?

    You don't understand? It doesn't matter whether I say so or not.

    I speak for myself. God has no power we don't ourselves grant. You think the body a device of the mind. You serve your master, not well, but whole at any rate! lol

    Which other? No. I'm me, you're you, self takes selves your high exalted unititty!

    If you can't say what you mean, if your words require explanation, you will come to be misunderstood even if you don't want to be.

    Is self-denial death itself? We don't know death. We do not redeem ourselves from it.

    EDM? lol You mean electronic dance music? Let music divide us all bored one! Let's find ourselves in the... but if you don't know, all the better to surprise yourself! :-D

    If you can't or won't face lifes disputes with love, life will run you down. It's no monster, but can assume monstrous proportions! lol I am prepared to fight. A hard potentiality. :-D

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    "God" is not a being, it is a non-living higher power.

    Which is not to imply that there never was a Space God that started The Big Bang, only that that being had nothing to do with the formation of any religion here and has yet to come. This is essentially a Deist perspective, one that various founding fathers of America - like Thomas Jefferson, James Monroe, George Washington, John Adams, and Benjamin Franklin to name a few - believed.

    Near-death research conclusions also offer insight about this:

    The choices we make in life matter deeply.

    Life is a golden opportunity to live a spiritual life in a world of darkness.

    Life is very important because how we have lived our life largely determines how far we can go into the light.


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    The non-living higher power that is often referred to as The Light of God, The Breath of God, or simply The Light that many near-death experiencers - in all the world's major and minor religions, as well as atheists - often report having witnessed "at the end of the tunnel." The Light is not just symbolic of spirituality but a tangible energy spectrum which transcends the physical realm, which operates off of a completely different set of principles, and which allows spirits to exist in the first place!

    Moreover, The Light represents the cosmic principle that enables consciousness to emerge from nothingness in linear time.

    Which is precisely how it all started in the first place!

    Without The Light there can be no planets, stars, souls, or an Original Creator to use it to a very high degree in order to manifest a Big Bang.

    It is important to distinguish between The Original Creator who isn't around (yet) and the non-living Light which judges us according to our spirituality, or lack thereof (whether we believe in it or not), after we leave our bodies and return to the Primary Reality of Spirit.
     
  13. Dejavu

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    What original creator who doesn't exist yet? What's lights "judgement"? There's no leaving our bodies. Welcome to hipforums Avadar! :-D
     
  14. Dejavu

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    It depends, doesn't it. What is true is that it needn't be.
     
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    I don't think it can so perhaps it depends on your insistence. You needn't insist and if you don't where will you find it, that is harm?
     
  16. thedope

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    Don't let this naysayer intimidate, Avadar. The breath goes in and out of the body. As well sweat, piss, spit, shit, vomit, pus, blood, and hair loss. Last but not least, life leaves the body while the body remains as food for more life.
     
  17. GETDATDOPE

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    lol deja vu only likes playing psychology mind games, don't know why you feed into it.
     
  18. Dejavu

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    In all who feel they've been harmed of course. Your self-denial will not find a home in the hearts of others. As I've said twice before, your saying, 'reality cannot be harmed' works only as a battle cry.

    :-D Avadar's intimidated? Where does life leave to thedope?! LOL
     
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    Keep on crying warrior. Only if you insist! If you defend yourself you are already attacked.



    I don't suggest it.
    Where does the breath go Dejavu, out and on.
     
  20. thedope

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    I'm psychotic in a non clinical sense. We share our thoughts. Seems Dejavu likes music and dancing and prancing and preening and thinking his meaning redeeming to the point of making me a liar. But alas his thoughts are no substitute for mine. Our conversations are in addition, public and amendable by anyone. Are you bored?
     

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