If Being Compassionate Towards Mens Suffering Could Prevent Violence Would You

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by pickleweed, Sep 22, 2014.

  1. pickleweed

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    At best feminists don't care when an inequality effects men, like the sentencing gap, and at worst feminists look at ineqalities effecting men that favor women as victories for feminism, such as the gender achievement gap in education.

    How can a group be for equality when they look at an inequality as a victory???
     
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  2. Bassline514

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    That's an average for ALL professions, not profession by profession. You still bring back that grotesque error to validate your point.


    At that age they already got distinct educations, which explains those early differences. Boys and girls are raised differently from the moment they were born. If boys were not encouraged to play with gun toys and girls were not encouraged to play with dolls, I doubt there would be so many differences in their behaviors even this early in life.

    Not at all, I just congratulated them for stepping up and adressing the problem, and that's where you put words in my mouth. Stick solely to what I write here and everything will be so much simpler, ok?

    Wrong! People who don't behave are the cause of these laws. Feminism might just be the reason why the complaints about it have finally been taken seriously.

    I made a search on the net and didn't find anything official about that classification you talk about! Only people's opinions about how it's a hate group and all. Jo Blo's opinion has nothing official, sorry.
     
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    Part 2 (forgot to reply to some of your statements)

    When a girl isn't interested it's not because she thinks she's too good for you, it's because she's not attracted to you, very different. We don't care about what this guy might think, but we damn well care if he keeps following us while screaming slurs!

    In the examples you gave me, I only consider holding doors as a galant gesture. Like I said, it's creepy to have guys hitting on you while you do nothing else than going from point A to point B, especially when the girl is obviously not interested and manifests it by her attitude or by saying it bluntly. Insisting is creepy. Staring (especially when you focus on a certain body part, cleavage for example) is creepy and rude. If my man tells me I'm hot and compliments me I'm not offended, far from that. But those "hey sexy, what's up?" thrown this and there while I walk out are creepy. You might not get it, but that's the way it is.
     
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  4. Anaximenes

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    Ohh!!!, the problem stemming from international politics for needing to defend attachment to internationalist Ideology is over blown for it's custom of a nationalist feeling. People have to apologize for their misunderstanding of Nationalism. Maybe some woman can help teach someone about trust straight out of nationalism.

    Please tell me I'm sexually harassing you over the computer like a door in your face rather than the computer working out an idea for an improving government. Than the cause to fight for may be common ecology and ideology against procrastination.
     
  5. Bassline514

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    WTF? lol!
     
  6. volunteer_tommy

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    And in other news today...

    4000 children died because of drinking contaminated water.
    2.4 million refuges await help after escaping Syria, 1.2 of which are children
    The 3000th person to succumb to Ebola has died
    21000 people died of cancer
    ...and the rest of the world continues to bitch pointlessly about things they take for granted

    I hope you feel proud of yourselves
     
  7. guerillabedlam

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    So if you have the right to judge a guy's actions and attach a name to it, then a guy should equally have the right to judge a girl's actions and attach a name to it. That's the way it is. :daisy:
     
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  8. volunteer_tommy

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    And nothing? Yeah... nothing.

    Seriously, I wish all of you would grow the fuck up
     
  9. pickleweed

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    I saw a video of a group of dozens of feminists physically and sexually assaulting men peacefully and passively protecting a church in Argentina while hundreds if not thousands of feminists cheered them on. That video makes a good case that modern feminism is a hate movement, and I have not heard feminists denouncing those feminists, only feminists rationalizing and defendig them.
     
  10. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    how can you NOT understand this?? if black people are 14% of the US population...and there was no "racism" in the equation...then black people would make up 14% of the prison population as well. but instead, they are 39% of the prison population. that's about 3 times higher than it should be.

    and that is thanks to prejudiced drug laws which will send a person to jail for 20 years for "x amount" of crack cocaine (a "black person drug")....but it would take 100 times that amount of cocaine (a "white person drug") to send you to jail for the same length of time.

    "In 2010 black non-Hispanic males were incarcerated at the rate of 4,347 inmates per 100,000 U.S. residents of the same race and gender. White males were incarcerated at the rate of (only) 678 inmates per 100,000 U.S. residents."
    SEE THE DIFFERENCE?!

    you don't see it because you're covering your eyes.

    so if someone is impoverished and disadvantaged...but NOT white, then fuck 'em??
     
  11. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    *double post*
     
  12. volunteer_tommy

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    It works out that way because the justice system is a joke. I assume we all know what a private prison is, yes? Easier targets tend to... well, be easier targets, for various reasons usually involving prejudice and racism.

    But I thought this thread was about feminism?
     
  13. ginalee14

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    I'm not covering my eyes, I just see very differently. And I'm glad that I do, I'd rather see in my own way (even if my view does not behold statistical information). That's not my meaning to say that only white impoverishment and disadvantage matters and others don't, silly to even suggest that. I don't think of crack as a black thing and cocaine as a white thing so I have to question if that's stereotypes talking - or - if it is statistical, if it's a regional matter.

    What is the prevalence and concentration of poverty that make up that 39% prison population? The more depraved in poverty, the greater the crime. Statistics aren't always reliable, you'd have to break it down to it's regional proportions and take a closer look. The United States is HUGE. Statistics I think can sometimes distort the accurate picture of reality.

    Wanna see a pic of my daughter? She's back to wearing her afro these days, lol.
     
  14. pickleweed

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    So, if black people make up only 14% of the population, yet they make up 70% of the players in the NFL, there is discrimination against white people in the NFL-right???
     
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    what? That IS the way it is. Guys label girls all the time.





    affirmative action doesn't promote hiring a less desirable minority candidate, it just ensures if an equally skilled black person and white person apply for the same job, the black person has a fair chance of being hired.

    also, football is a spectator sport relying on viewer interest and advertisement. No one would be interested in the NFL if it was a bunch of weenie white dudes running around a field. We all know that.
     
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    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    more closed-minded words may have never before been typed on hipforums.
     
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    How is that closed-minded to you when it's actually the exact opposite? I don't conform my mind or my view. That's free mindedness, not closed.
     
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    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oqyrflOQFc[/youtube]

    This clip at least provides explaination of the pay gap of medical doctors.

    Only problem with that is is the more you congratulate them, the more you endorse laws that classify rape as any type of sexual activity that came after any amount of a controlled substance was injested. I heard California has a law that is identical to the rule at my college. By law, this means any time a loving couple has sex after a drink together, the girl could file a rape report against her boyfriend if they had a falling out. It also means if a girl has consensual sex with some guy and regrets it the next day, she can make a rape report as well. Are they gonna stop at alcohol, or will they also count all controlled substances and prescription meds as well? If common sexual activity like this can be classified as rape, then how the hell is society and law enforcment going to take life threatening, real life rape cases seriously if you trivialize the meaning? It's a ridiculous law that disrespects real rape victims. I'm not putting words in your mouth, and I wouldn't put anything else in your mouth unless it was consensual.

    I barely skimmed the surface:

    Here, we have a feminist blogger lashing out at male college students for inventing a color changing nail polish that detects date rape drugs. The comment section tears her a new one:
    http://feministing.com/2014/08/25/some-questions-about-undercover-colors-anti-rape-nail-polish/

    They're just pissed off because it has to be sold and not magically subsitized

    This whole blog: http://amazonfeminist.tumblr.com/post/21947755657/i-hate-men-yes-i-am-a-feminist-no-not-all

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    http://www.xojane.com/family/i-was-raised-to-hate-men-and-now-i-dont-know-what-to-think-about-feminism

    The KillAllMen# hashtag http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/kill-all-men





    Again, I'm gonna have to touch on the labeling and mislabeling of rape scenarios. Sexual harassment policies are put in place because of the idiots and the creepers. Blurring the line between sexual harassment, sexual assault, and rape is all feminism's doing.

    Sounds to me like you might be rejecting these guys a little too coldly. That's just my assumption. If you're mean and bitchy at their attempts to talk to you, they most certianly will retaliate with deragatory words. Most sensible guys will let it go if you turn them down politiely. But yeah, if he's annoyingly persistant and can't get a clue, then you have every right to go on bitch-mode and tell him to fuck off.

    When I've been rejected, I have thought pretty bitterly of certain women. But I've learned to just tell myself that she's the one who's missing out on an opportunity to date a great guy. It keeps the ego healthy that way.
     
  20. RooRshack

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    What harassment or threats are you talking about? (credible threats, not people having fun at the expense of the MRM, if not outright false threats actually perpetraited by feminists)

    What is wrong with MRM suggestions to fix the problems?

    Why is it not okay to argue with feminists? The problem is partly the feminists, it's totally okay to argue with bullshit wherever it may be found. Feminists want to effect public policy, opinion, and the like, and they do it through aggressive lobbying and speaking and arguing and debating - what is wrong with arguing with them? Why is it okay for feminists to tell malicious and self-serving lies, but not okay to argue with them about it? WHAT could possibly be done, other than arguing? In a battle of ideas, what is there to do but attack poor ideas with good ideas, and why is it not fair to the poor ideas to do so?

    As for the "death penality" bit, do you think that's funny? I'm serious about these issues - if you're not, or are prone to simply blow off points against you as an argumentative tactic (a favorite tactic of feminism), I don't think you're particularly fit to debate this particular issue.

    Also, knock it off with the appeal to authority logical fallacy. It doesn't matter who says what about feminism or the MRM, if the logic doesn't add up the argument, action, classification, etc. is just as illigitimate.

    Truth doesn't care how popular it is, it doesn't change. The popularity or (or lack thereof) of a position does not validate (or invalidate) it.
     
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