it's too bad the rumors that iran wants to destroy israel originated on fox news. they have a habit of making shit up.
i think a lot of checkpoint killings aren't being done by iraqis. these "insurgents" know when exactly our troops are going into them and where these checkpoints are. that would take some inside info to know that shit. i think some of these extra slayings could be some of our allies. israel or saudi arabia perhaps? or possibly blackwater. but i don't think near as much carnage is happening because of insurgents as they say it is. besides, america shouldn't always have to rush out and fight everyone's battles or constantly give out foreign aid. we have enough of our own problems here at home in the states.
they most certainly would and have. ever seen those videos on the news of alleged snipers in the mideast? they have cameras mounted on their guns. that's a well known charateristic of israeli weaponry. blackwater was down in new orleans messing around too when katrina happened. how do you know they aren't acting on behalf of the saudi government? besides, israel attacked the uss liberty and prettyy much got away with it. what makes you think they'd never attack americans again? mossad has been known to hijack planes themselves and the IDF loves snuffing out inocent arab kids. these people are every bit as heartless as anyone else over there.
This is ridiculous in the extreme. You think it takes Israeli super commandos to lay an ambush and wait for someone to drive by? And only Israelis have cameras on their guns? Seriously, what kind of lunatic conspiracy websites to you get this stuff from.
the locationjs of military checkpoints aren't exactly disclosed to everyone and anyone. i happen to know people who have been in iraq recently and are over there now. there's way more to this than you'll ever hear about on the news. some people just can't bear to ponder the thought that some of our most trusted allies might just be our enemies as well. because it's way more comforting to believe whatever fox news, cnn, abc, nbc or the white house tells them.
this should clear up a few misconceptions about iran http://www.republic-news.org/archive/174-repub/174_nenonen.htm as you can see iran is not the aggresor here
I haven't followed this thread, nor have I posted much lately, but yesterday certified why I don't watch news programs. I normally listen to commercial-free satellite radio but I accidently broke my antenna. So I listened to C-Span radio all day. There were senior military leaders in front of a senate intelligence oversight committee who actually advocate a preemptive strike on Iran. Insanity. I said 5 years ago when we started this mess in retaliation for 9-11 that we were going to have to fight every Muslim nation once we got started. I didn't think we'd pick the big ones first, or at least the least aggressive. Iran has NEVER started a war but they sure as hell have finished a few. Do yourself a favor, get as far away from the cities as you can.
it's all a ploy. even the experts in the field of things pertaining to nukes and nuclear power have said it would take iran atleast ten years to develop an arsenal of nukes. if anything, the usa and israel and their supporters are the aggresors here. their plan is to stir up as much trouble with as many muslim lands as they can. why should they care though? it won't be their children fighting these battles. it will be the children of the working class getting drafted. i guarantee you they'll bring back the draft.
Ah, but THAT is EXACTLY the plan! The US will attack Iran right after the NEXT FALSE FLAG terror event, a month or two before the election. The US will be at level RED, the attack will occur, and there will be SO MUCH FEAR MONGERING that RUDY GUILIANI will be a shoo-in. That's why the Recyclicans want Hillary to be running because if the US is under attack and launching a new war, few will want that bitch to be running the country. I guarantee that is the current plan by Rove, et. al.
Sage advice. I already have... You know Iran may be many years from being able to deliver a nuclear warhead on a missile, but once they get those 3,000 centrifuges up to full speed, there is a LOT of radioactive material they can generate. And that material can be used in dirty bombs. If enough gets put into the wrong hands, there can be big problems. But the ironic thing is that NUCLEAR WEAPONS are now obsolete! With the new style gas bombs they developed they can wipe out as many people with far less physical damage and NO residual radiation. Isn't that great? And there's NOTHING at all stopping any country from developing those. The technology will soon be off-the-shelf I bet. Or they could just buy a few from Russia, who makes the biggest ones. Why not? Those bombs aren't covered by any laws or the Geneva Convention or the US & Russia wouldn't have them would they?
Yeah but Iran needs more nukes to defend against a US attack, to nuke Israel and still have enough radioactive material left over for dirty bombs to give to Bin Laden personally cause he's gonna sneak into the US and explode them himself.
UN, sanctions, threatening military force, etc... Scare tactics. All part of the game. The illusion that the US is ready and willing to stage an aerial assault in exactly what the US is trying to project. At this point.
War is archaic and obsolete. That fact doesn't defeat the fact that they are still fought. Iraq already has chemical weapons. They saw how successful Saddam was at quashing the Kurdish uprising and they got their own. I think the point here (and I know you're playing along) is that Iran has no interest in starting a war. They never have, but they've finished several. They were glad that we deposed Saddam because that freed their Shia brothers. Now that Bush is openly fucking with them, they've made it clear that we're poking a hornets nest with a bare finger. Not a good idea. Hostilities against Iran will open the door for Syria, Yemen, Azerbaijan, Pakistan, Qatar, Turkey, Kuwait (etc etc etc ad nauseum) to jump on the "kill an American on general religious principle" bandwagon. WMDs aside, they'd wipe us out like the Turks did the Armenians. And please, tell me, after the last 6 years who would honestly stand with the US against Muhammed's millions? Britain? Certainly not France or Germany. So China wants our real estate and Islam wants our lives. So would end 387 years of oppressive caucasian rule. Doomed.
YES! that is if there is something going on within 50 miles of where i live, which is unlikely. wait, i could go to ashland. there would be something going on there! more than 50 miles, but whatever.
Britian , probably.. Then why does France have a carrier fleet in the gulf with us? Saddam had millions too, no wmd's needed.took almost 3 weeks. Iraqs military was once ranked #4 on the planet. wmd's aside, that and air and sea superiority, they have no more of a chance than iraq had.
yeah, im sure they're gonna wipe us out with their old soviet military equipment and yeah, britain prolly will stay an ally. and that caucasian rule comment wasn't racist at all -.- hopefully we dont end up at war with iran, since it'd be a domino effect to WWIII. if we do, im buying guns and going into hiding. hiding so im not conscripted by the imperial army, and buying guns incase there's an invasion of the mainland US
I really don't think we have to worry about a land invasion. That's unlikely. Chemical and nerve agents or a dirty bomb is more likely. Increased terrorist attacks, definitely. As to Iran's antiquated Soviet firepower, you forget that they legally bought several squadrons of F-15s in the 70s and illegally bought several F-16s and Blackhawks in the 90s. And if I remember correctly, MiG 25s and Su27/29s aren't that antiquated. If we can win a war on airpower alone, they can certainly fight one. They just won't launch it from home.
Hey, I just remembered something nobody has mentioned in YEARS! Didn't Saddam move a fleet of planes to Iran just before the US invaded Iraq? I remember that tidbit cause I thought it strange that he didn't want to use them to defend his country (probably cause they'd be wiped out quickly). So what kind of planes were they are where are they now? Perhaps Saddam put WMD on those planes and that's why none were found? (I doubt it but it's possible).
Nope, those were f-14s. No F16's, No Blackhawks, Israel knows Iranian airforce better than anyone. They are when they are up against F22s and JSF "F35" Iran lost over 400 aircraft to Saddam, they wouldnt even launch a plane if they knew the USA was close enough for A/A combat, period.