I was kicked out of school..

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  1. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    School sucks big time.
     
    Piaf, Apr 28, 2008
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  3. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    No you're missing the point, BSR. It has to do with parts of the brain and how each person organizes and utilizes theirs.

    That is a MAJOR gripe I have with the current educational system (and one reason why I started the Free School), that each person has different educational needs according to their talents. Sure everyone should know basic math, but advanced math? WTF for?

    I once had a showdown with my favorite Junior HS math teacher who was trying to teach us some really abstract math (I excelled in that subject btw), and I demanded to know WHY we needed to learn that particular thing since it bore no practical use that I could see, and we'd probably never use it in our real lives.

    Surprisingly he answered by telling us he wasn't just teaching us math, but "how to learn" and how to "figure things out ourselves", which I thought was a good answer, but still an evasion of the question.

    We can learn how to learn and figure things out by actually doing real things that we will be doing the rest of our lives. Instead of abstractions, why didn't they teach us how to balance a checkbook, or calculate whether it's better to get an ARM or Fixed interest mortgage?

    My belief is that the purpose of an education is to discover each person's talents and develop them further in a totally supportive, non-competitive environment. That seems completely antithetical to our existing educational system, yet it would probably be 400% more effective and society would benefit dramatically.
     
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  5. Mr. Mojo Risin'

    Mr. Mojo Risin' Senior Member

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  7. LuckyStripe

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    Believe me... I have problems with math... I'd have my BA if it weren't for two math courses that I can't seem to pass... all I need for the degree.... I guess I'll attempt them again at some point cause I have to... but gahh... I have an A in EVERY SINGLE OTHER college course that I took that isn't math- well, except one B in a chemistry course... but yeah, I would spend hours studying math every day and would end up so frustrated that I would end up in tears and end up dropping the class so not to mess up my GPA...
    But lack of trying my ass. Lazyness, my ass. :lol:
     
    LuckyStripe, Apr 28, 2008
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  9. BraveSirRubin

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    I agree with you Skip. I agree with you 100%.

    The education system sucks, and they don't teach anything practical.

    Yet the kid in question goes to a private school, and has several tutors. There is no excuse for not understanding something as simple as math when different people desperately try to make you understand it in different ways. The OP is either lazy as hell or just gave up way too early. I'm very good at math and used to tutor the biggest idiots in my school, and even they somehow managed to pass the tests.

    I wish that education could be so selective and personalized, yet it is something that we are yet to achieve. As your teacher told you, math doesn't teach you anything practical... just teaches you how to learn and analyze information. This makes math crucial. I don't think that any other subject that you learn in school can be as PRACTICAL as math in real life. You can solve any logical life problem in the real world if you can solve any logical math problem in school. A lot of people still seem to lack basic logic these days. Math is key in making people doubt their ignorant beliefs since it imposes the value of logic upon you. There is a process and there is a conclusion. So much can be achieved through logic.

    The more advanced math you learn, the better your logic skills are. I was always a very logical person, which made math very easy for me. But it's the people who do not understand math who need help and must learn this very basic, yet extremely underappreciated skill.
     
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  11. Mr. Mojo Risin'

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  13. BraveSirRubin

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    No, math will not help you solve emotional problems. That's not what math is for.

    It does help religious nuts doubt their religion, racists doubt their racism, and so on. You cannot ignore the good that logic brings.

    You can leave math behind once you're old enough to go to college, but all I'm saying is that it's a key tool to understanding the world.
     
    BraveSirRubin, Apr 28, 2008
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  15. Van_Gogh

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    mojoooo! :(

    I cant believe you got kicked out, lame.

    You know what though you can try, there's different homeschooling systems, and maybe you can graduate earlier that way and you also get to choose the courses you take. The thing is though, math. If you actually want a diploma and not a GED, you'd still hve to take math. But you can learn it personally on your own time and hire a tutor.

    You also have to be a certain type of person to get books in the mail, finish the tests, write the essays, pass, all without a teacher sitting you down and tell you to do it. So if youre not a person who can kick your own ass to do it, i wouldn't suggest it.

    I agree that a highschool education isnt ALWAYS needed, but i deffinetely would graduate. Atleast if things dont work out, or they do, but you plan to persue something else on top of that, you can always hve your diploma and go to college if you want.

    or another highschool, like you said you might choose to do. But i think graduating would be a really good choice.
     
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  17. Mr. Mojo Risin'

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    better :D

    If you need help finding a good program I can always hook you up.

    havent talked to you in a while. everytime you usually are online, i'm in the middle of a fight with a bf....:& sorry about that.
    I rather be talking to you, haha
     
    Van_Gogh, Apr 28, 2008
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  23. BraveSirRubin

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    Math is logic.

    The fact that you fail to understand this is probably the reason why you suck at it.
     
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  25. Mr. Mojo Risin'

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  27. BraveSirRubin

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    Well, you go on and fuck your life up mate.

    One day you'll learn to respect math.
     
    BraveSirRubin, Apr 28, 2008
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  29. bandbeyondescription

    bandbeyondescription Nothertimesforgottenspace

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    grades dont mater at all just if you pass...
    i heard that 90% of what you learn in high school you will not ever use...
     
    bandbeyondescription, Apr 28, 2008
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  31. Piaf

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    Oh but you will. Even math...
     
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  33. bandbeyondescription

    bandbeyondescription Nothertimesforgottenspace

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    really

    What will I use, so i know what to remember
     
    bandbeyondescription, Apr 28, 2008
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  35. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Do you want to go to Uni ?
     
    Piaf, Apr 28, 2008
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  37. bandbeyondescription

    bandbeyondescription Nothertimesforgottenspace

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    Go in what?
     
    bandbeyondescription, Apr 28, 2008
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  39. BraveSirRubin

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    Grades do matter if you want to go to college...
     
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