so I wrote this http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116619 and since double posting is a no-no I'm just linking to it, read it if you want......
yeah, I originally thought that in theory pure bull was appropriate, but now I know that no one posts there except by circumstance, so I need to start putting things places that they'll get seen and responded to and not where they expressly belong not of course going too out of reason but that easily could have gone in random thoughts....
we're random thoughts, just younger, hipper and with a lesser average height we also have a few more troll problems probably......