I used to love Salvia, but now I'm too scared to try it again

no, i didn't mean i invented the relation between the effect and the movie, just calling this a "syndrome", lol. i wasn't clear.

 

You didn't invent that either.

 

^ if someone else didn't patent it, it's fair game =P

 

lol, at least i never heard of it in this way. so yes, i invented.

 

I know exactly what you mean. I have experienced the exact same thing on salvia... and on LSD, I really thought I was on a game show, and my friends were the hosts, and I was just making all the wrong decisions in a downward spiral of destruction and at the end of the show, drum roll sounded and I knew I had to die.

 

I invented keepin' it real, though.

 

two weeks later, i decided to load it again. i'm breaking through very easily, it's getting almost impossible to not break through once i get into a real trip. and i don't like to break through. i quit doing extracts, i'm sticking to plain leafs only. but i'm not sure if i'll buy salvia again anyway after what i have here is finished. this thing scares my soul.

my consciousness was trapped into the surfaces. i was the houses and the ground of salvia space. if i tried to move, the focused house would get a small rip above the ground or between its walls, this would make me realize that there was no escape (cos even if i ripped the surface completely, i'd continue being it anyway). a male entity which i couldn't see but who felt like the inteligency behind all that realm was remembering me that what i was feeling was my real condiction and my human existency was only an ilusion. i couldn't relate what i was experiencing to salvia use, but i had that sense of "this has happened to me before", which was my only hope that the condiction was temporary. it is strange. when i'm there, it looks like all the past trips were the same, it looks like i was experiencing always a same thing that i couldn't remember afterwards. for the second time, i didn't feel the comedown like it was the effect of a drug wearing off. the entity said something like "ok, you can stay in this ilusion a little more", i gradually morphed back to my human form and gradually got awareness of the surroundings. felt like i materialized back to my body, not like i was "stopping to trip". sober real life for the minutes after looked like a continuation of the trip storyline, like i was living the ilusion they allowed me to live in.

i didn't show panic or surprise when i came back, i just asked my sitter if i had moved or said something. but i got extreme paranoia afterwards. my sitter smoked salvia for his first time some few minutes before me. he didn't smoke it properly, small hits, so he was able to talk and in good contact with reality. i thought he wouldn't feel anything actually. but he said he was feeling it, he said his voice was robotized, lol, whatever... he opened his eyes and kept talking to me. i thought he was ok, so i was preparing to smoke my hit, and he said "no, please no, don't go, let this thing die on me". i realized he was still confused, so i decided to wait. when he was ok, he was obviously surprised cos it doesn't look like a drug, he said it felt like it's something spiritual and very real. he tripped that he was guilty that i was going to a bad spiritual place, like the hell. he actually thought that i was going somewhere else, not him, and that it was his fault that i was being trapped.

this plus my trips of being trapped in an eternal nightmare in a parallel reality plus the intense realism of the experience made me feel very very paranoid at least in the two days after. i felt existencial crysis and some symptoms of dissociative disorder too. i was looking at my friends, other people, and that looked odd. "all those people living their lives, all those things happening and why do i only experience what happens to this guy (me)? how can i only see what is behind his eyes? this is strange, this is empty, it's very possible that there is something bigger but out of my reach now, perhaps this is really an ilusion and perhaps i'll be trapped forever in that realm when this ilusion dies. perhaps someone/something there manipulated this ilusion i'm living on so i could reach this salvia thing and unintentionally use it as a tool to end the ilusion".

well, this were more or less the weird thoughts going around my head. it can even sound interesting from a matrix/truman show perspective, but if the experience i have on salvia was the real deal, i would get the blue pill without thinking twice.

bottom line, i'm not crazy yet, i still see salvia as a hallucinogen, not as a sacred shit. but this doesn't mean i can't be paranoid about it. and these are not healthy feelings to have. now i'm worried that continued use of salvia can lead me to mental disorders/dettachment from reality. so i think i can say i'm scared again, lol. i'll probably stop doing it very soon, this drug is evil.

 

Salvia is certainly not evil. It has a dark overtone to it for sure but cocaine and ketamine are evil.

Ketamine does everything you just worried about salvia doing plus it's wickedly addicting.

 

Hahahah, I can definitely relate. I found a vial of salvia the other day from when I had bought some last summer, and it sparked my curiosity again. Last time I tried it I was on LSD, and at that time I was still fairly new to different psychedelics, so I wanted to give it one more go but this time on salvia alone.

What you described above was exactly what happened, I took half a hit instead of ripping it, and once I recognized the nasty body high it gives you, I remembered everything about the mindfuck alternate universe it had transported me to in my previous trip, felt myself moving towards it, and I instantly fought it. It's really not scary to me at all, just utterly weird and the body high is disgusting (my skin feels clammy and hypersensitive). I threw the rest of the bowl out, and I have sworn off salvia for the rest of my life. The mind-fuck aspect of it is interesting, but it's physical effects are too unpleasant.

 

Amen on the last sentence

 

Salvia is no joke.