I Truly Hate People.

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Kiprat, Apr 26, 2016.

  1. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    You had a different username, right??
    I recognize the style.
     
  2. Kiprat

    Kiprat ophidiophobe

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    But there are lots of ways to harm people. For some of us having a hatred for people actually prevents the harm getting worse. Its logical.

    : )

    OK summary: its not an "I will harm everyone as revenge" type hate. I'll still try and do the right thing to others.

    But seriously, I've felt this way even before this week. I DO hate people. But its an "I'm not gonna be stiffed again" type hate.
    I've given up the trust and belief in people, let alone unconditional. Won't let them slip past my defences etc. An emptiness inside type hate.

    Thanks. I'll message you when my brain's less fried: )

    LivingLifeAlive you mean?
     
  3. Meliai

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    Is it AT?
     
  4. themnax

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    sapients evolved on worlds orbiting other suns, also yes, in so far as every individual has a unique personality, however colored by species, pretty much everything with a central nervous system is in that sense a person as well. not entirely sure why this still needs to be explained to humans. that it does, is one of those several sources of annoyance. also a reason for the rest of the universe not to trust them.
     
  5. scratcho

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    Interactions between humans are fascinating to observe. From the conscienceless- ie:Ted Bundy, to the truly giving, loving person to whom one gives their fealty. It isn't one or the other ,but there is seemingly a continuum on which we all (majority) fall somewhere between the two. Obviously, one must avoid the former and embrace the latter if and when one is fortunate enough to find such. Most of us have found love throughout our lives in one way or another. Conversely, damn near all of us have been burned by circumstances
    exacerbated by our own personal ways of handling disappointments in our interactions with others. Then we often, as you have done, begin to accuse/hate your fellow humans for being dishonest, deceitful and generally not worth caring about because----well--it's gonna' happen again for sure. It's not pleasurable to be hurt by one to whom your trust has been given--but it's damn sure not the end of the world and and does not indict the rest of the population. The world as we know it is incomparably beautiful and completely terrible for many at exactly the same time. Is and always was . Get some objectivity about yourself and see what has happened to you as a lesson learned and move on.

    Of course there are humans that deserve our hate and that we wish were gone---but don't let hate determine your lot in life. Your heart won't like it!
     
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  6. Piaf

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    No, you.
    Sorry, I should have quoted you.
     
  7. Kiprat

    Kiprat ophidiophobe

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    Maybe you're confusing me.
    I posted here a looooong time ago, decade maybe?
     
  8. abarambling

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    I'm not talking about the people who hate/dislike people harming others. That's not my point. I'm saying that these people have never experienced someone really harming them yet they hate/dislike the world. While someone like me has experienced that, but I don't hate/dislike the world. So, I wonder what the deal is with that. It's weird, basically.
     
  9. Kiprat

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    Well some people seem to hate everyone because they see the world as a big jungle, one big combat arena.
    Where if they can fuck someone over, then they deserve to be. Its not that uncommon.

    Maybe you can tolerate bad treatment, because you think its understandable or tolerable or even "defendable".
     
  10. abarambling

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    I don't know. It's just weird. Whatever, though.
     
  11. Ashalicious

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    This thread inspired me to reach out to my estranged grandma, who I haven't spoken to in years. There has been much family dysfunction regarding that relationship, not just with her and I, but with her and my parents and other family members as well.

    None of that really matters, though, in the big scheme of things.

    In any event, I can't wait to rebuild my relationship with her. At this point in my life, it will be nothing but precious.
     
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  12. Kiprat

    Kiprat ophidiophobe

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    Because that works for you. But failed again for me.
    (OK the issue isn't finished yet, but I'm speaking about right now)

    But what inspired you here? : - /

    I hope it works for you anyway.
    It gave me great pleasure to avoid my grandmother's funeral. Or Baba Yaga as I called her. (She was why my g-father killed himself thro vodka!)
    I was probably too tolerant of one of my other g-parents too. TBH I find families a drain, a curse even.

    Only u know your own g-mother.
     
  13. LivingLifeAlive

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    Its me. How are you meliai?
     
  14. LivingLifeAlive

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    Oh,I totally get ya. Its reall easy to fall into that feeling and thought pattern btw. Esp if, well, really only if trust has been broken by ppl...i don't even think its a totally negative thing as you said somewhere. I balance it by realizing some things about some people are amazing. But, yea, alotta ppl are selfish and will stab you in the back in a heartbeat if it suits them that day. Humans are deeply flawed. But don't ignore the good.
     
  15. Kiprat

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    Maybe I've said a lot of emotive things before letting myself fully digest them.
    I've no idea what the final upshoot will be. I can only express my views and think things out each time, over time.

    Maybe it'll turn out I "jumped the gun" on some things. I don't know. Maybe I was completely right. I just feel pretty dead inside.
     
  16. LivingLifeAlive

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    My solution to that feeling...complete overhaul-out w/ the bad (ppl), in w/ the good (ppl). Truly changed my view on things & also how I feel about myself & view life. Of course w/ that there is always the chance of finding out the new is deeply flawed also & being doubly hurt & super dead to lifr (im in that position right now, for a while anyways if I were to find out the new sucks as bad as the old, id be a shell. A shell. But at least I know I am capable of moving on & seeing and doing things diff)..& really there is a risk to anything that has huge potential. Complete overhaul..also I believe do it fast, bandaid...offf! :)
     
  17. I suppose my fight or flight response would be to take it personally. I would probably cry and plead for my life. But my better nature is not to take it personally. To not consider what might be going through my killer's mind. Because frankly I'm not interested. I don't think I or my killer would be that significant that what he/she was doing to me really mattered. So I wouldn't want to be a part of that lie that the killer is living, like they're someone really important and powerful. I would hope that I could slip into my death as easily as I dream, but honestly i would probably cry and plead for my life.
     
  18. Ashalicious

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    Life is too short to hold onto bitterness, to not learn how to forgive, to focus on the negative.

    If you can't see that, well, at least I know that I can.

    My grandma is still a human being, and I want a relationship with her, before it's too late.
     
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  19. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    These posts from you made me smile. I am glad that you are going to do this for you and for her as well. I hope that you can build an adult relationship that is good for both of you. :)
     
  20. themnax

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    the only evil is aggressiveness itself and demons are a dark fantasy invented by humans, but as for nonphysical beings, should they choose to exist, and i seem to know several personally, at least they insist on trying to convince me they do, at any rate, of course they're persons, how would they not be?

    i love everyone in the abstraction. its only when their aggressiveness robs me of sounds not deliberately made by humans, that they are then more then welcome to do horrible and unpleasant things to themselves.
     
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