I Truly Hate People.

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Kiprat, Apr 26, 2016.

  1. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Ok, now how Yoda would say that:

    loving trusting, betrayal, the cost, risky it is mmm hmmm yes love or love not trust or trust not, there is no betray
     
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  2. quark

    quark Parts Unknown

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    It seems that nearly every week someone posts a thread that shares a title with a GG Allin song. (close enough in this case)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUcRAd0oZH4
     
  3. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Errrggh, why do people hero worship that guy?

    A no talent nutcase who actually did have mental problems......and ended up offing himself didnt he? or OD'ing....sad. not to be heralded
     
  4. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    As far as I know his death was by accidental heroin OD, he had promised to off himself onstage, but never got round to it. During his trial he was assessed by two mental health professionals, one found him perfectly sane, the other didn't, so I suppose the jury is out.

    IMO Allin is only important because he killed off traditional punk rock. He pushed punk rock as far as it could go in an attempt to get it "dangerous" again, and most people saw how meaningless it all was. If you've got a guy covering himself in his own shit and assaulting members of the audience, where do you go from there? its a bit empty. He had some value as a novelty and a bit of a cult following, but he had nothing to say, and at that time, punk had just started to get interesting again with the rise of hardcore in the US and Anarcho-punk in the UK, sub genres that actually had messages and ideals. Plus the traditional punk look and sound was being packaged up to be sold by corporate interests, that didn't help. I can respect him as a catalyst for change, but don't find anything massively interesting about him as a person or performer.
     
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    I hope you don't mean a conversation that happened here, on an online forum.
    Because that's kind of how forums work.

    Leeeet it goooooo
     
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  6. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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  7. Kiprat

    Kiprat ophidiophobe

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    I hate people because of reality. And because blind trust is a waste of energy. I'm happy to pay the price for not having unconditional trust betrayed/broken.
    People aren't cats. I should have remembered that.

    I do hate people. But don't worry, there was nothing personal from you. Yes the girl kind reinforced feelings I've had for many years.

    Ok you joke. But I'm deadly serious. But I don't ACT hatefully.

    The hate is because I can't isolate myself from people. And because of how I know people are.
    I do bother with people. But hate is a stance/feeling I've held for a very long time. To differing degrees.
    Its not a short term emotional response, but thanks for your post. Its an issue of several years with one person, and 15+ years with people in general.

    Re the Yoda thing, either way, we all know right and wrong - on some things. I don't want my energy taken again. I can't really explain it.
    Maybe its the difference between being played/thrillseeking. And arranging counterbalanced pragmatic situations.
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    Anyway, I sent a very short interrim reply to the erm root cause of my tirade. Naturally just after I sent it, I felt just as bewildered as I'd been the previous couple of days. It was sort of "I'm disappointed rather than angry with you". It indicated only a fraction of my thoughts. But it was clear I was pretty "agitated" too.

    What I'll do next, I really don't know yet.
     
  8. Meliai

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    I've always felt like people who are consistentally disappointed by people set their expectations way too high. Just to use myself as an example, i dont have this problem. It isnt because people generally treat me better than you. It is because my perspective is different.

    People disappoint me - everyone in my life has disappointed me at some point. Because no one is perfect. It doesnt really stop me from caring about them.

    We are all just kind of bumbling around in life and subject to human frailties. I think part of loving someone is giving them room to find their own path and make mistakes without taking it as a personal affront.
     
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  9. Moonglow181

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    Different energy , and I know the difference. it has nothing to do with randomly joining in conversations on a forum, which i do all of the time...so unless you were there and know where I am coming from,, I would say stay out of it.
     
  10. Sunnyriver

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    I hate people too exept on this forum amd facebook for some reason them are cool
    in my town people ask stupid questions
    they tell you what to do
    i been threatened, bullied, pitied and used
    just once i wish someone would listen to me and nor want something
    everyone in my town is a hardcores christian they all belive the same thing and have ideas of what you need to be
    the good freinds disaapear and the assholes stay
    i hate people i love being alone
    i got handicaps..peoples kids and even adults constantly remind me of
    i fucking hate people
    they are bossy, nosey, judgemental and mean.
    my freinds and groups on facebook and here have been great
    if i could make my world like it then it would be grear
    all women ever want to be is my damn freind winch really means there gonna dissapear
    i Am fourty and never had a real relationship
    i guess cause wonen are so fucking obscessed with looks the ugly will be lonely forever
    fuck people
     
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  11. Moonglow181

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    everyone is obsessed with looks, though.....not just women....

    I hate people for many reasons, too.....but I want go into them here.

    I am happy to be alone, though.....very happy.......

    go be gone...lol
     
  12. Sunnyriver

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    Yea, men are obscessed with looks too but, i want a woman a relationship but, fuck it
    being alone has its advantages
    but, some cuddling and someone to talk to would be nce ever once in awhile
     
  13. Moonglow181

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    Oh, you want a woman.....I like older wise people to talk to....and many times that is a woman. I loved an older woman once as a friend...She was very wise is some ways, and i loved listening to what she said....It was calming to hear her......and I loved her very dearly. I lost her, though, as someone barged into that relationship I had on another forum and f'd everything up....I can't say I reacted the best way either....but our friendship was just doomed after that...psychic vampires.....but I was not into her sexually.........
    I am not into that type of thing with woman at all.....I am straight...but I think it has to do with when I was little my best friend was a lady that was in her 70's...My mom was not there for me,......emotionally.....but this older lady was......


    ooops...I just looked at your profile. you are male...ooops.....now why did I think you were female? idk......yeah...cuddling and hugging and talking would be nice...
     
  14. Ashalicious

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    quark Parts Unknown

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    Still better than Led Zeppelin. *fart noise* :wheelchair:
     
  16. Kiprat

    Kiprat ophidiophobe

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    Hmm. I openly hate people, yet you say u have even less belief in them than me.So in a strange way, we're pretty similar.

    But certain things "cross the red line". I mean we shouldn't have to explain why some actions cause anger, offence, breaking of trust etc. Like I found myself doing in the email today. Thats a reason why I feel like I don't see any point in "unconditional belief" in anyone, anymore. No matter how much of a "connection" I've been led to believe I have/had/whatever.

    If you can go thro life believing that Asha, I'm pleased for you.

    But I just don't see it. I see lots of ugliness,plainness, functionality and emptiness. Lots of deception. Lots of fear, destructive energy, cowardice, vanity. And even beautiful things can hide ugliness, disease and harm.
    Truth means growth, or atleast survival. Delusion just results in death of the spirit, probably sooner than later.

    I think how many women I have really felt "yes she is perfect (or just good) for me"? Not many. Finding something genuinely beautiful (inside and out) is just a good illusion, IMO. If its got beauty, I'd bet my life, there's something equally ugly involved somewhere. I'm afraid to say.
     
  17. Moonglow181

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    No, we should not have to explain to anyone why we feel what we do when we feel whatever we do....Do dogs or any other animal have to explain why they feel what they do every moment of the day. They are just busy being who they are......and are not planning what they will feel tomorrow, either....

    I get angry every time I feel I have to ...and I need to stop explaining myself now. It is a fault of mine I need to stop......I am tired of people misunderstanding me, also....but c'est la vie..not meant to be then.....as people who really love you will love you no matter what...and I try not to generalize about everyone, but take each person and new situation as it comes.....but trying to get to the root of any problem I may have about anything in life, as i go along.
     
  18. Ashalicious

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    Of course it is an illusion, if all you choose to do is see the ugly in people.

    I think you are a negative sad sack who is choosing to be miserable. Focus on the positive, LOOK for the beauty in people. It's there, I see it every day.

    I feel sad for you and your ugly attitude.
     
  19. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Oi, so all of this is really just about some chic

    Facepalm smiley
     
  20. Joshua Tree

    Joshua Tree Remain In Light

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    I think this thread really belongs in the Mental Health forum.
     
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