I Support the Gradual Abolition of Meat.

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  1. Driftrue

    Driftrue Banned

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    Yeah, cucumber.. cabbage.. haha
    lentils, chickpeas, soya beans.. these are the equivilents.
     
  2. everything bagel

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    Ok
     
  3. Driftrue

    Driftrue Banned

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    If someone points out where I am, I think about it.
    Deflection from the point.
     
  4. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Meat is artificially grown when it didn't grew on a living and breathing animal. Nothing natural about animal flesh grown in a lab.
     
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  5. Driftrue

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    Yeah, I do see that.
    But it's only like growing an organ, I think. If that's natural enough to become part of a living breathing animal, surely eating it is not much difference than eating a living breathing animal meat.

    There will always be real meat anyway. It will just be expensive, in order to eliminate unnecessary suffering. Lab meat would replace cheap, intensively farmed meat.
     
  6. Gul Dukat

    Gul Dukat Kanar, anyone?

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    Anyone here wanna defend veal? That could be fun to read through.
     
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  7. I'minmyunderwear

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    that describes about 98% of all arguments/debates. internet or real life.
     
  8. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    The simple fact of the matter is no one needs a farm full of bulls.
     
  9. Driftrue

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    I didn't mean response in debate, I meant the response in the self.. If you know what I mean. An emotional response in the self because of the connotation of a word. Which probably describes 98% of emotional responses too : )
     
  10. everything bagel

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    Defend it? As in defending the practice of eating baby animals? I only ask because veal is only one example. Personally I don't get the big deal about veal (ha that rhymes) but lamb? I'll defend eating that all day
     
  11. Meliai

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    lamb is fucking delicious.
     
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  12. Driftrue

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    Perhaps.. We could feminize them.. Like cannabis seeds.
     
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  13. Bilby

    Bilby Lifetime Supporter and Freerangertarian Super Moderator

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    There is such a thing as biological individuality.
     
  14. Gul Dukat

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    I’m not actually prepared to answer questions on the matter. Sorry to disappoint!
     
  15. Asmodean

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    Are you secretly a member of the bos taurus species?
     
  16. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Abolition of meat,.....Fuck that shit,

    When this COVID-19 jazz is over with I'm heading over to the stockyard restaurant for a nice thick porterhouse
    steak with all the trimmings.
     
  17. Bilby

    Bilby Lifetime Supporter and Freerangertarian Super Moderator

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    There are many critics of the food business who have no idea what a complex and confusing business the food business is. Evidently it is a business you only have limited knowledge of. Remember, a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. What you don' t understand is that not all land is arable. In Australia 6% of the land mass is arable; 4% of the land mass is under irrigation. You ask the question about two fields, but you did not say if the land was arable. Livestock can be raised on dry land (not arable). In any case I live in a market garden area and I can show you market garden land left fallow because of low prices.
    You say you eat eggs,well chicken feed is made with bone-meal.I consider it cruelty to animals to feed chickens a vegetarian diet. As a freerangertarian I buy my eggs from a backyard producer.Chickens are re-cylcers of food waste.
     
  18. I'minmyunderwear

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    i'm not exactly sure, actually.

    do you just mean people's opinions are emotionally driven as opposed to them just using emotionally driven arguments? if so, that's pretty much what i meant too. if not, you've kind of lost me.

    i'm used to you capitalizing your sentences (unlike some of us) so i keep reading this as you want to eat an unstressed syllable followed by a stressed syllable.
     
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  19. Driftrue

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    Our eggs come from a friend down the road.. They eat all kinds of food. I don't know about vegetarian or not. And the figures relating to land specify arable land, which I do understand. I think it was a third? of the world's arable land is used to grow feed for cows. There are plenty of articles explaining why less meat more vegetarian crops would be better for world hunger.. But there are also other factors such as inequality which should probably be addressed first.

    I have specified my only care is that suffering is minimized : )
    The rest of the discussion is theory, because bagel happened to mention the world starving, and it reminded of what I had read on the matter.

    I have no particular wish for the world to turn entirely vegetarian. But meat should not be cheap, intensive farming should be banned. Pretty sure we're on the same page about that.

    The reaction I feel to a concept might be emotionally driven, but I don't form my opinions on emotional reactions. If people do, and I can see the opinion is illogical because of forming it on an emotional reaction.. I will point it out as a criticism.
     
  20. Driftrue

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    I'm going to make pasties later today.. Vegetarian ones for me, and traditional ones for Luv.. I think this demonstrates that I am not likely to get upset discussing this subject... Since I'm happy to cut up lumps of cow for my non vegetarian partner : )
     
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  21. Vladimir Illich

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    Oh yeah, - Cornish pasties luverly grub !!!
     
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