I propose an Exodus

Mononucleosis, do not insult me. This is most certainly NOT a joke, nor should it be considered as one. The people that I am speaking to will not be driven by greed, nor will they be swayed by sexism or racism. I'm only speaking to the people who want change, who love, who care, and who are at peace with themselves. Or at least, people who search to reach this, and they are serious about it. Believe it or not, women CAN do anything a man can, within reason, and the same holds true in reverse.

But please, if someone has such a comment, rather than helpful suggestions, I welcome you to PM me and we can share intellects. I don't mind debating, but I'd prefer to keep this thread on topic with each post being a helpful/useful one to those who are interested in this subject.

If you voted "Yes" in the poll, please subscribe to this thread or keep an eye on it weekly. Once we have enough people with us, we can begin planning and brainstorming, the fun stuff. ^_^ For now, let's work on learning things that we will need to know for a simple life, especially the things we take for granted, think of alternate ways to do such things without the modern-day luxeries. If we begin now, it will be a much easier transition.

Also, once we have enough people and have learned enough to venture out, we can get into small groups based on each area & 'get our feet wet'. We can try living in the wilderness for certain durations of time, working up in time as we learn and progress, until the final day(s) when we make our big move.

 

You know if you really want to do this you should also start weaning right now. Do you think that (I want to get a reply) by tomorrow you all would be able to put your computors away and never use them again? I mean you are using technology to find these places. Look by actually writting to the government. If you really are hard set about this you should start practicing earlier than you are.

 

I'll join your exodus.

 

KevinSmith: I don't know if you noticed, but I did PM you a while back, but you never responded. I'd quite like to talk.

 

To forsake technology in the pursuit of rebelling against capitalism is backwards. It's the ultimate conservativism. You can't get rid of technology. Fire is technology. We need to change fundamentally how society is run so and reconstruct it in a more humane and compassionate way. The Spanish anarchists knew how to do it. Industrial democracy.

I wish you luck in your endeavor though, and who knows, when I'm out of highschool I might come visit you to see how things are working out.

 

i have been thinking about this subject this days, and then i read this thread and though " hey, maybe i will find my place and maybe i can help to build that place!!"

i think we should give up technology and go back to the origins so we can find "the true", u know, western societies are too influenced by materialistic ideals and i think i won´t be able to stand this for a long while, i need to run away and find a place where the only rule is LOVE, and where people think that we are just another element of the Nature, we are the same, no one is better than the other, that way discrimination wouldn´t exist, we would respect Nature, and lots of other stupid things wouldn´t exist either. If you built a country and put in it ordinary people, there will be wars and the history will be repeated, but if you put in that place people who think that love is the most important thing, those mistakes wouldn´t be repeated. Maybe the new generations of that society would start to make some mistakes and would try to discover the western society and so on, but at least they will be able to chose their way and they would´t be educated by the TV, they would be educated with love and people who cares abour them and about the important things of life...

I think western societies are bassed on mistakes that people have been making since we began to be humans. Those mistakes are keeping us far from "the true" from what we really are, so the only way to be next to the true again is going to our origins and then we will be free, free to think without any influence, to make our OWN mistakes, free...will be just FREE ( i know freedom is never complete, but i think going to our origins we can get the more "complete" freedom...)

sorry for my english, i hope u get the idea of what i think...

anyway, if there is something new about this exodus..please, tell me!!

PEACE & LOVE

 

I would love to do this!

 

Mononucleosis, I'm sorry you don't like when the revolution has started, if I could go back to yesterday or last year & start it, I would. But now is as good a time as any, so let us begin.

la ninfa del boske, we can begin doing this all around the world, we will just need strong leaders on each continent to push the movement along. We need people who will continue on in the face of defeat, those who will not turn back no matter how many call them crazy, we need those who aren't afraid to push the envelope a little and make a difference. And you are right, once we make the move, we will truly be free.

So far things are going great and plans/ideas are forming left & right. I urge all of you, if you hear someone speaking of wanting something like this, or someone who has similar ideas, inform them and please direct them to this forum/thread. We can use everyone who is willing to come, the more the merrier.

If you're wondering where to start or what you can do to help, please PM me and I'd love to help and hear from you. As a general note though, we should all be studying basic survival, foraging & hunting, building shelters/clothing, weather forcasting, and we should try to take up/learn crafts such as sewing, woodworking, etc.

I also urge everyone to learn about their chakras, the energy centers in the body and try to balance yourself spiritually. Be at peace with yourself and those around you and treat others with kindness/respect. Pass the positive energy around, don't let negative energy stick with you.

 

Alright everybody. Hi...
The exodus has begun! (for me)
Yup, I have been homeless for three days now. Yay for me. Just thought I'd make the announcement. Everything's peachy. Come on people, join this thing, it's a gas.

 

That sounds pretty cool, let me know the more you think on it...

 

There are some people who are willing to give up everything and live like a red person would, before the white false gods came into the picture. Without electricity, completely living off the land, growing your own food and making all your needed supplies. They ARE out there and if you intend to find them and bring them into your life and create this way of life, again, it will be augmented by the mother earth and so it shall be.

Namaste
Francine

 

I'm one of them.
If I could get involved with a community, I would give everything up.

 

MMM, me too. I am one of those people who want to make their own tools, clothes, shelters and everything else from Nature. Forget electricity. How long have humans lived with it......Now, think of this one, how long have humans lived without it.....Get rid of it! Stop making uses of it!

 

I wanna come!!!!!!1 But I cant...Im still in highschool...perhaps when Im out of my educational career I shall...

 

I need support in the worst way right now, if anyone still cares, please let me know: http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90292

I cannot & will not continue on like this...

 

WHorseTurtle, Nathan11, pianoperson60, I feel ya.

The issue that I was dealing with yesterday is now subsiding and almost seems silly that it affected me so much, then again I could have been affected by the solar flare that hit earth yesterday as well. It was also documented at http://www.moodalert.com, a very useful site for monitoring cosmic changes. I've seen it to be pretty accurate.

In either case, I've learned that no matter what happens, we all need to do our part and push this movement along.

By the way, I picked up a book called "A Guide To Weather" by William J Burroughs, Bob Crowder, Ted Robertson, Eleanor Vallier-Talbot and Richard Whitaker. You can find it for about $6.00 USD, it is a great reference and I'm learning a ton on weather predictions. I successfully predicted a rainstorm that happened a few days ago in my area, it might not be much but it's a start. And I'm really excited to learn more.

If anyone else has read any good books on subjects that we'll need to know in the wilderness, please post them so we can learn with you.

Love & Peace Be With You ^_^

 

first off- your idea is good in the respect that yes, something needs to be done. However, the only ideal way this could work is if you practiced Marxism. I have been planing on starting a marxist commune in oregon or something for a while, perhaps we could combine some of our ideas.

we would all teach each other, and those who are best at their craft will perform their craft. If you want to be a fisherman, but you suck at fishing that is too bad. Life is all about natural selection, survival of the fittest.

Obviously womaen would have a different role in the society, because they are not as physically equipped as men, and even though that sounds sexist it is true. Women have a different role to play in life.

I know a great deal about farming, because i live on a vineyard in northern california. I would love to start a society with no leader, no attachment to society, and no currency. let me know if anyone else would be interested.

keep in mind... the revolution in cuba only took 80 people.

-CTF

 

Okay, I spent an hour making this post earlier but I don't know what happened, I went to check & it wasn't there. ARGH Good ol' technology for ya. *crosses fingers* Let's hope it doesn't happen again...

It's time to get our ideas organized so that everyone knows what we need to do next. I'm not telling you what to do, but if you are serious about this movement, these are the things that we must do to succeed.

1.) Begin learning about weather forcasting. We will need to know how to predict when rain is coming, storms, and knowing how to judge the time of the year based on the location of the Sun & Moon b/c we won't have calendars once we're settled in.

2.) We need to begin learning basic survival so that we know which plants are safe to eat, which are good for medical usage, and those that are dangerous or poisonous so that we can avoid them or use the poison on darts, blades, and other weapons to make them more effective during hunting. I suggest we begin by learning how to use slingshots and knives until we can learn to build bows. We'll need to learn such things as CPR and how to treat wounds & create splints.

3.) We need to begin eating less so that we can shrink our stomachs to a size where we don't need so much in the wild, because we'll need to ration food out. I know that we don't need more than 300-1300 calories per day as I've been doing research on health/fitness for the last 6 years. We should also cut out excessive sugars and alcohol/other poisons. Whenever you're doing something in your normal daily activities, think to yourself "How can I do this in the wild?", if you cannot find an answer to that question, you may want to consider curbing that activity until you don't do it anymore. A few exceptions to this is using computers and other essential technologies(essential for the way we live now). We should probably begin cutting our cable off soon and focus mostly on learning through, people, books and the internet rather than television.

4.) We should begin practicing doing without, such things like deodorant, soap, toothpaste(unless you eat excessive sugar), and hot water. If you are already used to showering/bathing in cold water that's great, please continue. As a matter of fact, I've gone this entire week without deodorant and I've actually grown to like my own natural smell. You really should try it if you haven't already.

5.) We will need things such as forks, spoons, knives and bowls. I suggest durable plastic and/or wood. We'll also need tents, sleeping bags and/or blankets until we learn how to create shelters on our own that stand up against the elements.

6.) We need to begin getting into good physical shape so that we can endure the harsh conditions we will face. We need to hone our bodies into that of like a cheatah or wolf, lean and strong. Effective(and essential) for survival. I suggest weight training, jogging/walking, bicycling, swimming and any other physical activity that you like that keeps you active & fit. We will need to be able to pull plows through strong dirt as I don't believe we should enslave animals. They deserve to live their lives just as freely as we do.

I believe it may be necessary to live in a place such as Africa or somewhere else in the middle east, to get as far away from the American influence and government. There are lots of tribes there that live just in this way to this very day so it is possible.

I would like to begin having meetings/conferences via instant messengers so that we can share/discuss ideas and stay in contact. What do you think about that?

We can't afford to lose touch with each other at this critical point, we must continue the exchange of ideas. Having said that, it is getting increasingly difficult for me to keep up with the amount of PM's and emails that I'm getting so if you could, please PM or email me with your Name, Age, Country, State/Province and Email. For all those who are serious, I'm creating a database to make contacting & organizing easier.

It is also important for all of us to stay positive and spread positive energy wherever we are. We should not allow others to bring us down or break our spirits. I'm sure that I probably missed something so if there's anything that anyone can think of that is a great idea, please do share.

Love & Peace Be With You ^_^

 

In simple terms, what are you protesting; what are you trying to achieve with this? If you're fighting to put a stop to something, moving away from it will probably be the least effective leverage point. If it's some personal reason; by all means, have a wonderful camping trip!

 

its easyer having a "spirtal re-awakening" than a one with out electricty just telling you.