I just smoked 2 joints...

Rayne.. stop being so afraid of trying weed. You won't get caught by your 'rents if you're smart about it, and it wont show up in your hair unless you smoke a good amount (hair tests aren't supposed to be detect little sessions like that). You would definately know if you had a piss test coming up and you could plan it so it's out of your system by then. I mean, that's what most of us tokers do, isn't it?

I think you'd be fine..
Salvia is definately not a weed substitute. It's a dissociative, rather than a hallucinogen, and it's a totally different experience. IMO not fun like weed, it's more of a philosophical or "spiritual" experience, or just a .. ehh.. trip.

I'd also like to add that I would see no problem with using salvia before MJ. If you've experienced any slightly altered state of consciousness from anything, it would still be enough experience to justify the use of salvia. Do you get what I'm saying? I'm actually high as I type this, sorry.

 

Piss test


what kind of fascist society do you folks have over there?

 

Hmmm... Well I would expect something differant/stronger/better than just a buzz like I would get from nicotine (and longer lasting!), and the product is at least decent, I guess.

We aren't smoking it at a party or anythign, so it isn't strictly to get fucked up and have a good time. I want to experiance the high that comes from the earth. Part of it is curiosity, part of it is, I know I can learn something new about myself. Yeah, I expect to have a good time with it, but it is more than that, because I can have a good time without substances.

 

i just read the last page......


all i have to say is


what the fuck?

 

I agree.

I kinda skipped all the pages between the first and last. Just trying to give some advice where I thought it was needed.

 

I am not afraid to try weed, I am actually probably gonna do it, if not soon, SOME time. I am not worried about getting caught by my parents because I don't plan on smoking at home or anything like that. I am also not seeing salvia as a weed substitute. I mean, like you said they aren't the same thing. That is like calling LSD an alchohol substitute, or calling blood thinners a morphine substitute. They all act in differant ways. I was wanting to experiance the spirititual trip though, I though it would be pretty fucking awesome, and I thought I would learn a lot about myself too.

See, the catnip was just to see what it felt like to be intoxicated, as I have never been before (and that shit didn't do ANYTHING!!!). Like I said before, I got a nice buzz off of some ciggarettes and shit like that, so I know now what it can feel like to be intoxicated, if only slightly, adn it has put at ease my worries about it, so I could now actualy have a plesant trip or high on whatever it is I choose to toke on, be it salvia or weed.

But don't worry man, I am not worried about trying weed anymore... And it wasn't really so much my parents as it was something that could affect me getting a job.

 

If you're looking to get intoxicated, why don't you just drink a couple beers with some friends?

That won't come up on a piss test.

 

Apparently there is a war on drugs going on, as if a war in iraq and a war in afganistan, not to mention a war on terrorism, weren't enough! The thing is all of these wars are wrong, immoral, invasions of privacy, unconstitutional, and they will all probably end as soon as bush gets out. The bad part is that people are dying to fuel the moron's ego!

 

Alright. Just don't start with the nicotine shit, it's so gross and gets you nothing. Alcohol is pretty shitty, too.

Weed is supreme ruler of these lands. Yes.
Have you been to Erowid.com yet?

 

I prefer alcohol to marijuana...any day.

 

Why? don't you get hangovers? Don't you fuck up your brain cells and liver?

hahah

 

First of all, I hate the tast of beer. Second, I don't want a hangover. Third, I don't like what I hear about the whole drunk type of intoxication. I mmean, I would rather laugh at everything than become sloppy piss drunk...

 

I'd rather have Wild Turkey and a couple bowls.

Maybe Bud Ice... Corona Extra ona hot day.

 

Well, generally I don't get hangovers, every once in a while when I over do it.

Smoking anything kills brain cells.

You don't have to get sloppy drunk and be a ****. It's knowing your own limitations.

I went through the whole pot head thing for like 3 years. It just doesn't do it for me. I like alcohol and you like pot. Who cares?

 

Whoa, man. I didn't say I cared, just making conversation.

 

Actually, I enjoy smoking... Besides the nicotine high I get (from not smoking a lot) I just like smoking in general. I like the taste of the smoke and stuff. But I agree, I don't wanna drink. I dono't like a lot of alchoholic beverages that I have had, and the ones I DO like are usually pretty hard liquor like schnaps (spelling?) and rattlesnakes and stuff, not stuff like beer, which I hate. I have never been drunk, nor do I want to be.

Yeah man, I frequent erowid, awesome site!

 

ha. didn't mean to come on so strong.

 

Oh I smoke cigars every once in a while, I just don't see any reason to get addicted to nicotine.

 

yeah...nicotine is a bitch. I wish i never would have started.

 

After days of finally being bored enough to open this thread and see what all the fuss was about this was definitely worth it. Thank you.