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Obviously a psychedelic can induce a spiritual experience. Strassman hasn't remotely proven that endogenous DMT is responsible for human spirituality, religion, or even that endogenous DMT has any actual, demonstrable effect on the mind or body at all. The only thing that is proven is that trace amounts of DMT have been found in the human body. From here, strassman cuts loose with a succession of hypothesis which he builds on as though his hypothesis were true and proven.

 

Alien experiences sometimes occur with people right next to the person. I'm not attempting to dismiss your point but I do find it very interesting that a flood of smoked DMT/Salvia to your head would negate all sense that those person(s) are there. Kind of puts me in awe of the power of these molecules.

 

DMT is utterly fascinating and unique. I've Never experienced anything remotely like what dmt does with any other substance; I'm looking forward to meeting "entities". But none so far... : ) i need to go to 70 Mgs...

 

fuck i had to go sign up for dmt-nexus, this drug has my mind blown, its like i dont care about any other psych than this stuff now.

 

Answer me this. What is the difference between:

-you ingesting a psychedelic which has you hallucinating aliens processing you into the afterlife, and then the psychedelic ends and you're still in your room

-you go to sleep and you dream that aliens are processing you into the afterlife, and then the dream ends and you're still in your room

see a similarity? Why is the dream "just a weird dream" but the psychedelic hallucination "REAL"?

Because they exist only when you take a psychedelic drug that alters your perception and state of mind and seems to have a common effect when placed in the synapses of human brains to have them see things like aliens processing you into the afterlife. And I would consider an episode like this definitely a "different way of thinking", but I think it takes a lot of effort to figure just what it is that this way of thinking is doing. I think the easy answer is "there were real aliens". It's the easy answer because it invokes the supernatural, just like religion is the easy answer to the existential issues we all face in life.

 

ok, so you think this drug or psychedelics give you no foresight to what happens after you die? Honestly, what do you think happens when we die writer?

 

In the case of bigfoot, anatomical evidence would be concrete evidence.

 

The aliens are real. I know because I am one of them. Is that concrete enough for you? I gotta give you some points man, cyborg aliens, that sounds badass. Reminds me of the game Marathon, which is always a good thing.

Not to burst everybody's bubble of complete understanding, but there have been numerous accounts of people having "out of body experiences" that are able to confirm things that happened while sleeping or other similar states. I find that a bit fascinating assuming everything is just chemical reactions of the brain. I myself have had very similar experiences while sober to testify.

Does any of this matter? No. Let's stop fooling ourselves thinking we know something, assuming you do.

Believe whatever you want, it doesn't make it any less fascinating.

^^^^ a tension ^^^^

 

Same thing that happens before you were born.

 

so we just vanish from existence?

 

I think it's interesting that you can take two people that never met each other, that live on opposite sides of the planet, smoke DMT and encounter the exact same kind of entity. Doesn't that alone say alot? If this was just a product of people's imagination, would they all be seeing different things?

 

there are entity contacts reported on other chemicals, and dmt could simply be extremely good at creating this phenomenon just like how say mdma is good at creating open emotionality. a strange kind of drug specialization; entity populated cerebromes

as far as our consciousness is concerned, yes. but we echo in eternity :sunny: a blessing to have even lived this much, ya know? the cycle continues, we extinguish, irrevocably having changed the world

 

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I am curious as to why what these aliens showed you has to be limited to afterlife? I don't have a strong belief in afterlife as of now but I have most certainly had alien contact experiences with DMT. I have not had any sort of suggestion from them or the experience really that it had anything to do with the future or afterlife although they certainly seemed extremely advanced somehow. What they were doing seemed to be a very here and now demonstration yet I could not decipher what they were really doing or wanted, if anything. Did you experience a communication of some sort that leads you to the belief that they were showing you some sort of key or knowledge to the afterlife?

 

its just as soon as i saw it it looked so familiar and they were kinda hinting to me that this was the next level of life, kinda went against my belief in reincarnation. But you know just random thoughts brought on by dmt.

 

Some dreams feel real. It's not about the events, it's about the recollection of them and the feeling. I like to think dreams are just a short trip into another dimension and you can extract meaning from (most of) those dreams because all worlds are connected. Same with psychs.

Also, sorry for hijacking the question

 

Ahhh, the dmt vision is extremely paradoxical for me. I'm seeing all these hyper perfected fractal networks that appear so alien and incomprhensible to me yet like you, I experience a tremendous degree of familiarity and a 'knowledge' there that it just makes sense.

 

No, it's not that phenomenal at all. It happens for the same reason that the majority of humans perceive certain wavelengths of light as the same color, recognize the same frequency of soundwaves as a B flat, etc., etc.
It's because we all share common wiring, it's as simple as that.
Insert chemical A into receptor B and get response C.

It really is that simple, no need to bring outside forces and entities into it whatsoever.


BUT, that is not to say that such outside forces or entities don't exist, let's just rule out all the possible bio-physical catalysts for such encounters first.
Jumping to the assumption of the supernatural to explain a phenomena without first exhausting all other possible reasons is superstition, not science.

 

Its like you have known it this entire time but you just couldnt see it until now. I dont know, its too real.

 

I have been fascinated by DMT for a while now, but never taken it... Reading this thread makes me want to get stuck in :sunny: