I have found the Solution!!

I am! And the boogey man from Texas Chainsaw Masacre told me to be!

Your baiting is so transparent. Look, if you need it spelled out for you, check all my posts. I'm not a debator. Never claimed to be. Never claimed to be fully informed on any of the topics in all these forums. Check my replies, and what I say and don't say. It's all out there, Yeal.

I come here to read stuff you don't see anywhere else. Unlike you, I don't claim to have an answer to everything, and I'm not sure of the way it's all going to play out, as you seem to be.

If I have to repeat it for you, I will. I came into this tread to dog you about the name calling. About your treatment of your fellow forum members. It's truly pathetic that you need to resort to the levels you do to supposedly, get your point across. But for some reason, your twisted little mind finds joy in calling people stupid fucks, assholes and ignorant. Just to name a few.

If I could hazard a guess, your parents would be appauled at what you do "out there", on the net. I'm sure all of us here would tolerate your opinion, without all the shit flinging that is so typical of your posts.

There, happy? I'm sure not.

 

I can see exactly the kind of person you try so hard to be. You try to play the guy in the middle. You would never be able to hold your ground on an opinion of your own, so instead you try to diminish my opinion and actions as much as you can to take the place of your own insecurities. This easily explains why when I asked you about your opinion on the issue, you avoided it.

That was why I told you that you were afraid, I didn't just say it to make you mad. I'll give you the last word, since I'm pretty sure you want to end this argument. If not, then we can argue further. So! Hannah, last word goes to you.

 

Run, Forrest! Run!

 

your a fucking retard.. it would be a waste of my time to try and educate you,,youve already lied through your teeth about reading the text of agenda 21.

that proves your not willing to seek the truth so there is no reason for me to go any further here.

 

I'm not a retard, first of all. I'm pretty intelligent, I think.

I didn't lie about reading the Agenda. I skimmed through it and got the gist of what the Agenda was about. And I did it twice. No need to call me a liar.

And hmm yes, apparently you calling me a "liar" is proof that I'm not willing to seek the truth. I don't think that's a leg you want to stand on, so I'll forget you said that.

For the fourth time, show me what section of Agenda 21 is a conspiracy. Basically, put up or shut up. Your choice.

When you continually change the topic or try to tell me that "You did your job" it's just showing me that you can't show me the evidence to back up your claims. So as of now, your argument is nothing.

I am very willing to learn, but I can't learn if you don't teach.

 

blah blah blah,, skimming through text does not give one the full story of the text,, only a "idea",, if you wanted to learn you would read it through thoroughly..

here,, have fun,,
be sure and come back in 20 minutes and tell me you read every word of every link on this page as well..

http://www.amerikanexpose.com/agenda21/index3.html

 

For what it's worth, you have my word that I'll read the entire thing. Although this looks like it could have been written by anyone..

I would really rather you show me within the Agenda what parts are a conspiracy. What you gave me looks like you googled "Agenda 21 conspiracy" and gave me what result you saw was the best.

However, I said I would read it, so I will. Give me half an hour.

 

Nevermind, it took 5 minutes to read. It wasn't nearly as long as I thought. I read every word, and clicked 2 of the links at the bottom.

Two things I would like you to notice. One is that none of what is written is backed up by any information whatsoever, it's just the opinion of a conspiracy theorist on Agenda 21.

The other thing I would like you to notice is the difference between the ACTUAL Agenda 21 (the one you gave me before) and the PCT version of Agenda 21. Would you mind showing me what part of the actual Agenda is so horrible?

 

if you read through every link there you will see why its a "conspiracy",. the united nations and the powers that be are funding private companies to implement there agenda slowly over time.
do you not understand that under agenda 21 you and i will own NOTHING!! they will dictate where we live ,how we live and where we are allowed to go.

slowly but surely this agenda IS being implemented in the united states.
there is a bill in front of congress now to seize all water rights in america.. a part of agenda 21..

http://www.rense.com/general80/cpn.htm

if you truly want to learn then do.. educate yourself before its to late..

if thats not enough for you,,google codex alimentarius,,, they aim to control the food you eat as well..

im not dumbing everything down to a third graders level for you,if you dont understand then theres probably nothing i can show you to make you understand..
i attempted,you spent 5 minutes going over links that would take the fastest reader days to go through and tell me you dont see the big deal.. i guess not..

 

Not only is the idea that WE will own NOTHING ridiculous, but it will never, ever happen. The riots would be massive.

This might be hard for you to do, but imagine the government as a loving parent and imagine the public as a 5 year old boy who doesn't yet fully understand right from wrong. By telling us where to live, the government is helping our planet regain its natural balance that humans have corrupted. They're not doing it because they want money or power or fame, but they're doing it for the greater good. In the same way a parent punishes a child, the child hates it, yet it's for the greater good.

 

Now i will use the word ...SHEEP... I'm done here. I dont need the govt to tell me how to live in a natural balance with nature but if you do enjoy your nanny

 

I will enjoy my nanny, because I care more about my species and my planet than I do myself. I can put up with living in a different way for a while if it has such a positive impact on my planet. Be grateful for what you have, and what you will have. In theory, while all this will be going there will be starving children in Africa.

 

I'm sorry to interrupt but I have to ask, do you really believe this?

If you do, who is this "they" you are talking about?

 

I do believe our government cares about us, but to a certain degree. I believe they care for our country, but they aren't going to go out of their way to help a single person. Instead, they help as many people as they can. "They" refers to the government and/or whoever else is in charge or has any authority over the way our country is run.

The government has to govern the greater good, so they can't always please everybody. The responsibility of keeping our planet safe, along with our planets people, is massive. If I have to live in an underground vault for a few years to help Earth get itself back in order, so be it.

 

I sincerely do apologize to you for bringing your age into it, I shouldn't have. The sad reality is, unfortuantely, that ignorance and arrogance know no boundaries when it comes to age, race, class, gender, etc. You're just as stupid as any 63 year old who clings to the same cherished values of your pathetic ilk. And yes...you ARE pathetic. Go play a video game you sad little worm. Or rather, PLEASE go play a video game you sad little worm.

 

So now I'm stupid, nice. Good one! Takes a true hero to call someone younger than you stupid over the computer. Not only that, but you didn't back yourself up. I think of myself more on the intelligent side for a lot of reasons. One of them is that I didn't jump on the conspiracy bandwagon like you did, mister 51-year-old-who-should-know-better-by-now. Most adults your age have grown passed conspiracy theories, but apparently you haven't.

How do I argue back on that one? Umm... no I'm not?

Nice one champ. Just a fun fact, while i have the oppritunity. I sold my xbox two years ago because I was addicted. I couldn't play video games if I wanted to, nice try though.

uuugh guy you do me too much. You try so hard to make me look bad. Maybe if your argument had any legs to stand on you wouldn't have to call so many names. Next time you think of calling me pathetic, think of this. You're 51 years old, arguing with a 17 year old, and not only that, but your mostly just calling me names.

(Now in your mind your going to try to justify yourself arguing with me over the internet, LOL. Psychology ftw.)

 

Actually, I'm in my late 20's.

Interesting how you insult others for always being "at the ready" to respond immediately and not even 10 minutes go by, and low and behold...here you are! Nice one..."champ".

As for as this "bandwagon" you keep on persistently referring to, I gotta tell you...it's a pretty big one! It consists of pilots. Architects, Engineers. 9/11 victim's family members. Professors. Students. People from all walks of life. People from all over the world. And the numbers keep on growing. How can you...no, how WILL you try to explain that?

You're right that I shouldn't insult you by calling you names, but I tried the analysis tactic, but you essentially ignored it by claiming that it's been done to you time and time again....well perhaps that should tell you a little something? Hmm?

Your problem is that you're willing to believe only what you hear on TV. You're not "stupid"...what you are is NAIVE and IGNORANT. Held captive by those you were trained into believing. Please research the Patriot Act. Are you aware that there are laws being put into place now that accuse peaceful protesters of being engaged in "Terrorism"?

What say you on that?

edit: as for "starving children in Africa", are you aware that there are starving children right here in your beloved U.S.A.? What is your precious government doing to alleviate their suffering? Do some research on how Native Americans are treated TODAY. Pine Ridge Indian reservation is the poorest community in the country right now.

 

I'll show you.

I insulted other people for being "at the ready" because he always seemed to be on. Right now, you and I happen to be using the computer at the same time. No biggie.

I'm not sure what this means... but I ignored your other post because your ego demanded that I answered it, so I chose to ignore it to mess with you. You resorting to calling me names to get my attention, which proves my point. Your like a little child coloring on the walls to get his moms attention.

Well, now my attention is on you, congrats.

Yes sir. It is a massive bandwagon, and I think you're the first conspiracy theorist I've met to admit that. CT's usually act like their a minority, and that the whole world is out to get them. The reason the bandwagon is so large is really simple psychology. People naturally are drawn towards things like conspiracy theories. It takes them out of everyday life, and immerses you in a world where everybody is out to get you! Even your own government! And there's aliens! And lions! And tigers! And bears! Oh my...

But really, I think you get it. Conspiracy Theories are a rush, and thats it.

You know, seriously, there is nothing that pisses me off more than being told that I am unable to think for myself and that I believe what I see on TV. If I believed everything I saw or read, I would believe in the 9/11 conspiracy, or the countless other conspiracies. Instead, I consciously choose not to.

This is an interesting statement. I was taught, as a boy, right from wrong, and the do's from the dont's. I was taught to be a Christian, and I went to church. I was a good kid.

Around 12 years old, I went into a deep rebellious phase. I got in trouble at school, got in trouble at home, and got in trouble on the streets. I read all about the 9/11 conspiracy, and it sort of fueled my youthful anger and hostility towards authority. Around 14 years old, I believed in psychic stuff, and all that other stuff. I would subconsciously choose not to dig too deep to find out where all these psychic and conspiracy sites got their information. In the back of my mind, I knew that the stuff was fake, but I was fooling myself.

At 15-16, I snapped out of it. Loose Change turned into a comedy that I would watch time and time again. I reread all the stuff I used to read, and I kept asking myself "How could I ever have believed this stuff?" I believed it because I was young and foolish.

Full circle endings are nice.

 

False full-circle endings to please and satisfy one's own ego, yes. Absolutely. Your "reasoning" is so twisted out of reality that there really isn't a point in continuing any kind of discussion with you because you really HAVE NO argument. You just have a self-enforcing resistance to anyone else's point of view that doesn't match your own delicate sensibilties.

You keep saying that people "enjoy" conspiracy theories. I DON'T!! I want to live in a peaceful world that is free from corruption, racism, the whole bit. I want everyone to be happy and treated fairly. I think it's a perverse twist of logic to say that believing in certain conspiracies is a form of escapism which is utterly ludicrous. I'm not talking about aliens and crop circles, I'm talking about an actual event that took place, namely 9/11. We all agree that there was a terrorist conspiracy that took place on that horrendous day. What people disagree on is exactly WHO the terrorists were...or more specifically, what COLOR SKIN the terrorists had (mull that one over for awhile). Also you didn't respond to what I mentioned about the Patriot Act. I find it interesting how you selectively gloss over certain things that you would rather ignore/avoid.

But..."conspiracy theories are a rush...and that's it". Uh yeah ok, if you say so...tell that to the victims who lost loved ones on 9/11...I'm sure you'd get a few teeth knocked out.

And...you ignored my comment on the Native Americans and how there are starving children right here in America.

Google "cognitive dissonance". You are suffering from it.

 

The full circle ending was just for fun. I don't understand how a certain type of ending a post can please an ego. Interesting.

I ignored your Patriot Act comment because it was a HHB all over again. CT's are known for stretching the truth. Honestly, I didn't feel like debating it. the Patriot Act is probably an act that limits the rights of protestors. Problem is, when CT's see it, the flip it around and turn it into a conspiracy.

Tell you what, watch this 9 minute video, and I swear, I'll actually google that cognitive something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I

Again, same story with the other thing.

oh.