I have a question regarding the environment and libertarians?

I doubt anyone in the position to have an ecffect would try and do away with child labor laws to the effect of what you're thinking of. Libertarians will sometimes speak out against child labor laws because they go overboard. It's technically illegal for a Grandfather to pay his 13 year old Grandson to fix his computer, mow his lawn, etc. Things that would do nothing but help the child. I realize you're not gonna see the cops breaking down Grandpas door for doing so, they'll do it under the table and no one will care. But shouldn't our laws reflect reality?

So to answer your question: I think not. Reform maybe but not repeal.

 

My Ex girlfriends 3 year old knows more about science that government bribed scientists who have a motive for the EPA.

I mean this is their serious illistrations on how burning than burying carbon and spraying aresols and particles of alluminum in our air. If it doesn't stop global warming, probably because it's just a simple minded way to get us to pay billions a year to the EPA to "Combat Global Warming"

I think if the people still decided it was morally wrong, they shouldn't make their kids work. But if a 15 year old kid needs money, I actually think it's taking away from their human rights by saying they can't work. That's the type of laws that turn children into theives etc. by telling them they cannot get a legit job!

I think Liberals use government regulations as an excuse for certain people pushing a certain agenda. Liberalism isn't as clean of corruption as you think. Government regulation does not "improve freedom" but rather depletes it. Part of freedom is being free to make these decisions;

 

Forcing a child to work in unsafe conditions is imposing on the Liberty of that child. Yes, regulations should be in place to prevent that from happening. I thought we've already been through this.

 

History has been through this already too. That's why child labor laws were instituted in the first place. So we should go back and try again? Has industry become kinder and gentler now? Why should we expect a different result?

And yes, Capitalist Libertarians will always try to improve their bottom line. the kids be dammed. it's all about profit for industry.

 

I've never advocated removing child labor laws, nor will I. However they could stand to be loosened up a bit so that children could legally do the jobs they're already doing, such as mowing lawns and doing chores for families, as long as conditions are safe and appropriate for the child's age.

Some Libertarians are like that. Same as Republicans and Democrats.

 

Obviously, you've not looked into the "scientists" who pushed global warming. Global Warming is a scam, pushed by Al Gore and other "Democrats," to fool the Liberal Masses into wasting our money in a pretext to "save the world." Firstly, it's only based off of 200 years of research (Scientists who refute global warming say we have no idea if we're heating or cooling cause we've only been able to measure tempature for 200 years! Furthermore, the image I showed of Geoengineering is what Pro global warming scientist believe is gonna stop global warming (Spraying Aerosols and Aluminum into our oxygen and water supply) any idiot who realizes this only might help global warming, should also realize that chemicals and metal particles floating through our atmosphere, may also cause inadvertent health effects, possibly even death.

But it's not surprising Liberals support these policies, cause they do it across the board! Sure, regulation can be used to help the people, but regulation through government can't really be defended in the same way. The reason being, is that Government Agencies (The FDA, the EPA etc.) clearly turn a blind eye to corperate corruption (GMOS, chemicals in our water, companies dumping toxic waste and other enviormental attacks, and these programs Liberals believe are "protecting us," Are actually working in the best interests of these elite industries; who liberals believe "want less government, so there's nothing between them and the people," when really more government has worked out in their favor.

You think they care they can't hire 14 year old Americans? They go to China for cheap underage labor. But when I was 15 and already smoking cigarettes, weed and, drinking; being able to get a job and pay for these things would've prevented me from stealing/panhandling etc.

One size does not fit all when it comes to these issues!

That's completely your opinion. I would argue that this government is more corrupt than most in the world. Our freedom, even as it once was in this country, is gone and, more importantly the Rule of law and The Constitution is under a vigerous attack.

I wonder why people still think we're free;

1:It is now a felony to protest the president or government anywhere around them. (HR347)

2: The president can now kill whoever he'd like, based off no evidence at all, merely "suspicion" of terrorism (And he's killed 16 year old Americans)

3:The NSA and DHS now spy on citizens, although they "claim" they are looking for terrorists, people who have found the government spying on them include Ron Paul Supporters, Anti war activists, Third Party supporters, Constitutionalists, Patriots and, "Tea party" Conservatives. (Certain words are watched too; including 'police')

4: The government planned to have the kids that organized OWS sniped and KILLED in new declassified Documents.

Meagain- You think we're okay, I think we're passed the point of tyranny, and past the point at which to start pushing back. Are you an Obama supporter? I'm just trying to figure out why you would still support this government!?

 

Meet The Climate Denial Machine:

Despite the overwhelming consensus among climate experts that human activity is contributing to rising global temperatures, 66 percent of Americans incorrectly believe there is "a lot of disagreement among scientists about whether or not global warming is happening." The conservative media has fueled this confusion by distorting scientific research, hyping faux-scandals, and giving voice to groups funded by industries that have a financial interest in blocking action on climate change. Meanwhile, mainstream media outlets have shied away from the "controversy" over climate change and have failed to press U.S. policymakers on how they will address this global threat. When climate change is discussed, mainstream outlets sometimes strive for a false balance that elevates marginal voices and enables them to sow doubt about the science even in the face of mounting evidence.

more: http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11/28/meet-the-climate-denial-machine/191545

 

When Politicians push these Agendas, there is a lot of money behind them, to fool a lot of people. There is a lot of scientific argument about Global Warming! Climate change is real, Global Warming is a political scam to induce fear and raise taxes.

Liberals always thinks people who oppose them have an agenda. But never
once second guess Democrats, who tell us the inconvenient truth, is we're all gonna burn up unless we pay an extra 1 billion a year to the EPA. You really believe this?

NeoLiberals are just as bad as NeoConservatives for maintaining the Status Quo.

 

I suppose I would agree with that, yes.

 

Who says I'm a believer in Democrats?

The Democrats do lip service for human rights, the Republicans don't even feign concern for the poor. They both represent corporate interests. Neither of them represent the 95 percent of us. To know who our real masters are look no further than the multi-national corporation.

 

20 scientists is enough. Everything is science in theory; global warming is no exception. However, it's a Government endorsed theory. I did'nt say we're "not heating." I believe it's due to climate change, not 'mankind.' Nor is there any solid evidence suggesting this heating is irregular on the earths cycle, when the earth has been around thousands of years, and the so-called 'evidence' is only based off a short period of that time.

 

Honestly, your hatred overshadows everything, doesn't it?

I think anyone who claims that human activity hasn't effected the climate is an utter fool.
Human activity has been effecting the planets climate ever since we evolved from hunter/gatherers to agricultural/animal husbandry as the prime means of resource gathering.

When humans started to collect and breed livestock, namely cattle, we began to alter the planetary atmospheric environment. Add to that the changes from agricultural practices that have led to local climatic changes.
Just the billions of acreage that has been converted from forest/grassland to housing,cities,asphalt highways, etc has to have a cumulative effect.
Shit, just the difference between trading grass for asphalt parking lots probably accounts for some temp changes, at least on a local scale.

Hell, human activity has changed the rate of the planets rotation and has literally shortened the length of a day.......all within the last 50 years!!

So saying that only having temp records for the last two hundred years invalidates the idea of global warming/climate change just shows you to be ignorant of the issue and science more than anything else.
You do know that they also take into account the atmospheric composition as well, and we have records of that going back hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years.

STP you have just become another loudmouthed ranter who will jump on ANYTHING at all that you can in the slightest connect with Obama or the current administration.

As I said before, you have become that which you rail against, twisting facts and information to suit your agenda.

 

So I guess it comes down to who we're going to believe: scientists or the corporations who obviously have a vested interest.

The choice is not very difficult for me.

 

Yes, we altered the length of a day;

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/03/03/n...y-are-altering-earth-s-orbit-expert-says.html

http://www.internationalrivers.org/environmental-effects-of-hydrological-alterations

just in case you think I'm throwing BS, STP.

 

Heartland Institute And James Taylor

The Economist has called the libertarian Heartland Institute "the world's most prominent think tank promoting skepticism about man-made climate change." Every year, Heartland hosts an "International Conference on Climate Change," bringing together a small group of contrarians (mostly non-scientists) who deny that manmade climate change is a serious problem.