I don't pay medical bills.

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  1. seizedbyanger

    seizedbyanger Banned

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    I was looking into nursing, but there are two things keeping me out of it: needles and guys like this one.
    I had a procedure done last week in which they had to attempt my IV over 10 times due to my collapsing veins and I know I was a royal bitch and that the nurses definitely weren't having any fun, but in the end I thanked them for remaining calm and kind throughout all that I had put them through.

    Just know there is someone in pennsylvania who appreciates you :)
     
  2. creedlespeek

    creedlespeek Member

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    Thank you. :) I know I am one of the worst patients. You can scream at me, cuss at me, and throw things at me, but DO NOT mislead me. I hate when patients do that. Don't get scared because of guys like that.
     
  3. beatlebug

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    I'm not bragging, that's why it's a "confession" =P I think I would've got less heat if I confessed to murder! Holy shittt!
     
  4. creedlespeek

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    It's not that you didn't pay. It's that you bragged that you wouldn't even if you could. It's fine not to be able to pay medical bills; healthcare is overpriced in America. It is exceedingly nasty to say that you would not pay for healthcare even if you could afford to do so. It is this attitude that makes care harder to access for everyone.

    I have nothing but sympathy for people who cannot afford to pay bills, and no one should be afraid to seek medical care because they cannot pay. Anyone who takes something with no intention of paying if they can is a thief. Do you like when people steal from you and then brag about how they'd do it even though they don't even need to?
     
  5. beatlebug

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    No, and I've never gone to a hospital unless I absolutely had to. I guess I meant more that I /wouldn't/ even seek healthcare. I had my finger cut off and I've had bronchitis twice this year... and didn't go until I felt it was absolutely necessary.
     
  6. deleted

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    how happily Americans pay for war and dont bitch at all .. someone gets a band aid and a bed pan and you cant stop flaming the poor bastard..

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    Read more HERE from my colleagues Luis Martinez and Devin Dwyer.
     
  7. lovelyxmalia

    lovelyxmalia Banana Hammock Lifetime Supporter

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    I have over $25K of medical bills for my father...

    I can't wait for the hospital to realize he's not around to pay them...I might give them the address of the cemetery in case they wanna take it up with him
     
  8. beatlebug

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    LOL lovely I love your sig I saw this sign once it was a "no smoking" sign but the guy had the cigarette backwards in his mouth... LOL =P
     
  9. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    I don't pay medical bills either. I have a serious mental illness and am supported by the SSI Disability program, which thankfully pays for my (would be in the $1000s) medications and doctor/therapist visits. I am very grateful for such a program and plan on becoming politically active on the platform of low-cost medical coverage and assistance for the Disabled at some point in my life when I become more stable.
     
  10. drumminmama

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    well, how are all the clubs going to get a hold of a nine fingered picker to book a gig?

    yeah, my CO taxes directly paid your bill. Money I earned working sound and lights for musicians.
    you're welcome.
     
  11. beatlebug

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    I need SSI. I also have mental illness. I just don't know how to go about doing it.
     
  12. seizedbyanger

    seizedbyanger Banned

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    I have a mental mental illness and so do others who were rejected or are still in the process of waiting for a response.
    You don't need SSI, you said yourself you were a travelling musician bullshit. You want SSI because you don't want to get health insurance or a real fucking job. Also, what's the difference between getting gov. health insurance and mooching for a monthly check because you wanna get 'free' money? They're gonna send you all that paper work and see that you're a little social butterfly musician who wants to, is willing to, and is capable of travel and self sufficiency, and they're gonna deny you ASAP. I don't mean to be a downer and all, and I don't know the history of your mental illness, but they're gonna wanna get in contact with every doctor/nurse/psychologist/psychiatrist you've ever seen. Personally, I've seen 7+ over the past almost 10 years, and it's been a long agonizing claim with lots and lots of paperwork, and if you can't provide years of documented proof, they're gonna take one look at your claim, have a nice giggle and roast marshmallows over it.
     
  13. Meliai

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    didn't read the thread past page two, but figured I would throw in my two cents anyways.

    the US medical system is seriously fucked up. I think thats something we can all agree on.

    I perfectly understand going to the emergency room, being stuck with a 10,000 dollar bill,and not having the means to pay it.

    If the US healthcare system was better, that wouldn't happen.

    Things like that are NOT what drives healthcare costs up in this country. The high cost of healthcare period (of which nonpaying ER patients make up a small percentage) plus the high cost of pharmeceuticals are the two main things that drive costs up.

    With that said, ER bills are still your responsibility. I had a serious medical condition a couple of months ago and I braved it out a day just so I could see a doctor instead of the ER. I was lucky enough to find a doctor that cuts 50% off the bill for the uninsured, and now I only owe $200 instead of $400.

    The ER definitely would have been at least $1000.

    I was in a position where I probably could have died. Its sad to live in a country where I put myself in a position to die rather than go to the ER and put myself in debt.

    I really don't blame anyone that needs to go to the ER by neccessity and then can't afford the bill. Blame the industry for driving up cost, not the individual.
     
  14. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    To the guy who wants SSI: it isn't a 'fun' thing to have. It gives barely enough to scrape by, and if like me, you truly are disabled, it makes you feel like a discriminated second class citizen. I avidly work towards getting off of it as soon as I stabilize.
     
  15. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    i wouldn't pay either

    on the other hand, i wouldn't go

    call me "niney"
     
  16. OptimisticFutureBlues

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    I had a medical bill about two years ago. For a hemorrhoid...yeah not the most exiting or glorious of problems, but a problem none the less. It was a 15 minute total procedure. 10 minutes to let the aesthetic to take hold, and 5 for the procedure itself. Keep in mind this was something that HAD to happen at the hospital, and it had to happen right then and there. This thing was so painful, I cant even describe my level of discomfort.

    Anyways, the bill came out to $1100. I said fuck em. I left the state and its their problem now. That is over $50 a minute, for a problem I did absolutely nothing to induce or cause. Anything medical should be free of charge. If we took all of the money we've spent on military hardware and used it on the people who need it at home, this country would be a much better place.

    "But that's my money paying for it" Absolutely right and I could care less. Your money goes to worse causes. It pays for ordinance that kills innocent civilians in a country we invaded by mistake. You also paid for the mistaken conflict, the food, water and clothing that is keeping our soldiers in occupancy of the country and you pay for the incarceration of thousands upon thousands of non-violent drug offenders. You pay for that stupid border security when its clear that law enforcement on both sides is corrupted in places. We send food and supplies to starving/besieged countries when we at home have %75 of the country living in poverty and a besieged economy. And you have problem with your money (which your required to give anyways) going to someone who actually needs it.

    Keep in mind also that I'm a tax payer as well, and half the reason I didn't pay my hospital bill is because I had to fork over so much of my paycheck that after the rent was paid, I had absolutely nothing. Not a penny.
     
  17. OptimisticFutureBlues

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    Oh and a little fun fact/story for you all.

    A man visted a hospital, with abnormal heart rhythm and severe anxiety. He is treated with a prescription and an EKG test. During the course of 30 minutes, the patient calms down. His heart returns to a normal rhythm and his anxiety is now gone. Not from the medication, he hasn't been to the pharmacy yet. He is just confident in that the doctor told him 'Its going to be alright'.

    On his way out of the hospital, he is stopped by a woman at the front desk. "Before you leave sir, I just need to let you know that your hospital bill is $250 and you will need to make a payment before you leave the hospital at $20 minimum" This news upsets the man, as he has no money to give her. His heart again begins to race at an abnormal pace and his anxiety returns to haunt him. Defeating the whole purpose of the visit and possibly worsening his condition.
     
  18. beatlebug

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    My point exactly. Why is everyone bitching about my 10,000 dollars in medical bills when billions go to nuclear weapons and greedy politics and that "war" in which thousands died for someone elses capital gain? They cut thousands from general hospitals and public schools to fund military shit and things that benefit America's ultra-rich. You guys don't seem to mind paying for that shit. In all honestly, I couldn't pay that shit in a million years even if I did feel the want or need to. And to that one poster, I suffer from something called MCDD, which is kind of like Asperger's Syndrome but more abstract in it's symptoms and is suffered in a wider range of severity. I have about 80% of the symptoms, each to a varying degree. I am quite capable of socializing if I feel comfortable with a person but talking to people I don't know or don't recognize as kindred spirits I regress so much socially that I don't think I'm capable of getting a job. I'm too scared. And how I'm a traveling musician? I'm an alcoholic. Go figure. It gives me the courage I need to embrace my musical potential, but I got addicted to it in the process. And as far as the SSI investigation might go, I'm sure 5 psych hospital stays with definitive diagnoses couldn't hurt.
     
  19. drumminmama

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    ^^ because that money, from STATE medicare/-caid/indigent funds (or the hospital's own funds) could go to people with greater and long term needs. Or wellness programs, domestic violence and child abuse programs
    When a hopsital gets stiffed, staff gets less pay or worse, cut.
    And it is the lower level folks who have to work harder and longer.

    Our issue is you GLOAT about stiffing the hospital.

    Let me tell you a story about a Colorado hospital.
    I have a buddy, a REAL treaveling musician who strings together tours and pays his bills, who had a severe life and limb-threatening bicycle accident outside of Taos, NM.
    He was flown to Denver for a trauma unit, into a blizzard.
    His leg was repaired, and he's out making music again.
    However, the bill was astronomical.
    People kicked in, hospital, docs, air ambulance and almost every step in the process "forgave" half the bill.

    My friend has bills, to be sure, but everyone involved came to a working solution.
     
  20. Jo King

    Jo King wannabe

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    Beatlebug you complain about the government wasting and you fucking me for your bill is the same thing!
     
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