I don't feel the need to hate people that I disagree with

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by ezm8, Dec 24, 2013.

  1. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    Some of my most heated debates here are with some of my favorite HF members.

    And even if I don't have strong feelings about someone, I don't feel the need to hate them because we disagree.

    I feel like in the current climate of polarization, it's as if we are expected and encouraged to see ourselves as occupying an ideological camp, to make that camp integral to our identity, and to hate anyone who is outside of it.

    There's often too much "us vs. them" thinking these days and too much name calling in many debates
     
  2. scratcho

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    IMO, limbaugh, hannity, weiner, beck,et al are to blame. They know that it works.
     
  3. storch

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    e7m8, I disagree with you, and I hate you for it. And the fact that you probably don't hate me back makes me hate you even more!! So, make no mistake, it's me vs. you until further notice.
     
  4. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    Don't worry! I just said that I don't feel the need to hate people that I disagree with.

    I willfully hate your sorry punk ass, you bastard!
     
  5. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Yeah, I don’t hate anyone on this message board even though we often disagree; especially on issues concerning race.


    Hotwater
     
  6. storch

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    YES! Feel the hate. Let the hate flow. Be the hate!
     
  7. wcw

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    Race, sexism, and sexual orientation discussions usually get me hot, and I usually end up using the words "ignorant redneck" - but that usually happens IRL and not on this forum(I'm not sure if I have said it here or not). In the heat of the moment I hate bigots, but I have to realize I don't set the standards for right or wrong and what I believe or what someone else believes is just an opinion.
     
  8. usedtobehoney

    usedtobehoney Senior Member

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    This is radicalism! Get with the times! ;)
     
  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Why not name some of the clowns on the "other side" as well?
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Exactly.

    See, none of that bothers me, because people have every right to hate, be bigots, etc. What bothers me is that the people who most often cry tolerance have the least when it comes to people they disagree with. That causes me to dislike someone far more than a person with an opinion I might not agree with.
     
  11. scratcho

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    My opinion is that the clowns on MSNBC are reacting to what those other clowns have started beginning at least back in the 90s. MSNBC clowns are more 'truth to power' than just being nasty as a way of being. I know--the whole rig is a joke at this point. But I don't and never have considered myself any kind of conservative. 'cepten' on the roof. That pays.
     
  12. Jo King

    Jo King wannabe

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    :computer::argue:
    :smilielol5:
     
  13. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    They're all part of the same noise. One side couldn't exist without the other.
     
  14. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    People need to debate with the starting point of you are not likely to change what another thinks, instead you both present your views and respectfully saw off.

    Often sometimes on a topic you may be of opposing views and on the next one you may be allies. Funny how it works out. ;)
     
  15. Meliai

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    ideological opinions really don't effect the way I feel about people in general. I have differing opinions with just about everyone in my life on issues that are supposed to be "important." I like to debate because its fun on occasion, not because I think a person's opinion on certain issues really says anything about their character. I think we're often made to care about issues that aren't actually important in daily interaction with friends and family.
     
  16. RubySoho6

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    I don't hate people that disagree with me. I'm ok with that. I don't like people that are assholes about it. I think we should all be able to have civilized adult discussions about our opinions without someone being an asshole.
     
  17. Asmodean

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    Yeah, hating the whole person is unneccessary, I don't even know the whole person anyway ;) But yes, I do strongly dislike other peoples opinions at times, especially when it appears to be founded on bigotry or nothing at all. I agree with Pressed Rat, being a bigot is a human right but when they feel to share it without being able or making an effort of explaining it, then other people have the right to be so human to shit all over them :D

    I always try to not pick a side, of course we're all merely human and not immune for our own particular set of associations and how they affect us, so sometimes I find myself in one camp too. <--- this sentence makes me wonder:

    shouldn't this ideally be spelled affect?
     
  18. storch

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    Actually, I've yet to encounter any bigots or racists on this site. Of course, that might be an oversight.

    Shouldn't that be "not immune to our particular . . ."?
     
  19. Asmodean

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    Yes, I guess so :) If english is your first language could you give clarity about the affect/effect as well :p
     
  20. Piaf

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    to affect
    to have an effect on


    I think o_O
     

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