I Am So Angry!

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by WoodstockChild, Jun 15, 2006.

  1. m6m

    m6m Member

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    You're no prissy Polly Anna.

    I admire a poetic vision that gives you the strength to see the naked power that hides behind the helping-hand facade of Ego's deceptive rationalizations.

    Police perpetuate a repression over each individual that in fact generates global anti-social behavior.

    Through the coersion of a highly repressed social environment, Police in fact inspire every crime they claim to be against.

    For every murder or rape that Police can claim to stop, they instead inspire thousands more to be commited every day through-out this global Police-State.

    Mental illness caused by repressed life now infects the whole of humanity, and pushes us ever farther and faster down the ubiquitious death-drive of civilization's funeral-march.

    Yes, naked power, but it is the naked power of our psycho-energy that generates patterns of human behavior.

    Remember, psycho-energy, like all energy, follows all the same dynamic laws of energy physics, such as energy always seeks its own equilibrium.

    Where we see men whose behavior is preoccupied with power, we are looking at men who are impulsively attempting to compensate for an imbalance in their psycho-energy.

    And, as Primate's primary motivations are survival and reproduction, psycho-energy is largely psycho-sexual energy.

    Men most often seek power to compensate for an insecure sexual identity.

    Our conscious motives are convenient truths that become our socially acceptable rationalizations, but are only the visible tiny acceptable tip of a huge and overwhelmingly submerged motivational glacier.

    Ego allows us to only be aware of that visible tip that we may deceptively rationalize our motives to ourselves and others while also rationalizing our denial of the far more powerful currents of our submerged motivations.
     
  2. Politics are awesome

    Politics are awesome Politics suck

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    Because they believe in law, maybe? Anarchy, which is what would be if there were no law enforcement, is not something to strive for.


    m6m: You are insane. Find a hobby which doesn't revolve around pseudoscientific conspiracy theories that misconstrue the findings of psychologists and spin them into something that only sheep would ever believe.
     
  3. sila

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    That can't be a serious question?! You and I are lucky that people do choose to join, social chaos is not fun, just ask those who live with it.

    m6m:- I think you've been reading to much internet bullshit, but I quite enjoy reading your psycho babble.
     
  4. WoodstockChild

    WoodstockChild Intrepid Traveler!

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    I want no association with the fuzz. God. To think my dad was a police officer? Ew. I must've been swithced at birth.
     
  5. Shambhala Peace

    Shambhala Peace Senior Member

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    m6m-
    All that you wrote is nonsense. Obviously you haven't spent time in the real world or around law enforcement. Then you would know that the majority of the people who were in law enforcement are there for your protection. Like with any group of people there are always those few bad apples that give them a bad name. You can't condemn the whole group when there are a couple that abuse it. If law enforcement was as bad as you claim, then we would be living in a total police state. They would have taken power from the government and be policing all that we do. But we don't. We still have our rights and freedom. The person who is taking that away would be Bush, not law enforcement. Also, emphasis on that second word. EN-FORCE-MENT. They enforce laws, not make them. You got an issue with their job, talk to your local representative/senator.
    And get off your pretentious etymological/linguistic high-horse. You aren't fooling anyone.

    Woodstock Child- I am tired of these little rants. Are you serious? You are acting like a child who says anything to be accepted but doesn't truly believe it. I don't know if you noticed, but the tenor here doesn't include rants against everything. Sure we get angry about things, but we move on and get over it. Your dad's DEA. Big deal. Get over it.
     
  6. plume7reaction

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    Okay, days have passed and this still seems a hot topic (i come back days later to find this). Just chill out. That's what a laid back type personne would do, maybe youd call it the label of "hippie". You've got the name "Woodstock Child", the location "yellow sub.", "down w/ the establishment!" the this and the that, but you are a bit whiny for all this over-decoration of "hippie".

    I most definitely do believe that the War on Drugs is a major waste of $$ and time, and you shouldn't put some guy away for smoking an herb. You can write (my stepdad did that i think recently) to your congressman or you can complain all you want, or maybe join a protest or something. But that's the way it is, it probably won't change for awhile. Most drugs won't harm you especially the first time but certain drugs just seem to bring loneliness and despair. It's ruined many a people. It's killed some of those deadheads--it's made the "Unlucky Age 27" come into existence. Maybe we'd still be able to hear the music of Janis Joplin and other musicians and other icons if drugs hadn't killed them. Not that I'm totally anti-drug, I mean, I like marijuana occasionally and have an interest in LSD, but really when over-used it just makes people dumb. And believe me, I've seen it.

    But yeah, that's a bit off topic. Yeah, I think that the enforcement in our country is too strong on drugs like weed and that's wrong (why don't we catch some real criminals?!) but I think youjust need to chill out a little bit and live up to the name we're giving yourself. Your language doesn't present maturity -- "'the fuzz?' 'ew' 'switched at birth'". ok. You can still love the guy, though.
     
  7. sila

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    It sucks that the cops are out there making your life safer aye? When a crime is commited against yourself or a loved one I bet you go running to the cops. Cops uphold the law, they don't make it. I think your beef should be with the law-makers.

    When you mature you will realize the error in your views, I hope.
     
  8. m6m

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    Your concerns are the essence of the Hippie spirit we shared in the '60s.

    We were seen as a threat.

    By experiencing a non-repressed natural spontaneity, We were able to connect to a deeper significance of beauty that gave each moment a greater eternal essence.

    By not conforming to the institutionalized norms of Mainstream Hierarchical Society, we began to become lifted by the hidden energy flowing through the natural environment.

    We began to wake-up from the delusional daydreams of the Mainstream, and experience the energy flowing between ourselves.

    Nothing threatens the Mainstream more than the possibility of waking-up from the ghoulish 24/7 sleepwalk we call normality.

    Without the chaotic stress of hyper-competitive Hierarchy, our Mainstream culture would fall-apart.

    The Mainstream Police State did all they could to pollute our efforts by bringing their chaos and stress into our lives.

    Very few of us were able to resist returning to the soft comfort and safety of 24/7 slumberland.

    That's why, when I see a young poet like yourself seeking the power of individual self-determination, and the spontaneous Rainbow spirit, I become inspired.

    But that makes you a disturbing threat to all slumbering sleepwalkers, and that's why you receive so little support here.

    Because, even though this is the Hip Forums, and the Hippie sub-forum, the gravitational pull of Hierarchy's deeply submerged death-drive has a power that reaches even here, as you have come to learn.

    Yet the very fact that those of us who appear to have nothing in common with the Hippie spirit, and who even resist the Hippie spirit, are drawn to this place, shows that there's a spark somewhere down deep that draws them here.

    That deep within themselves, and even despite themselves, they come hoping to be touched by that spirit.


    Anarchy is the state of individual self-determination.

    Hierarchy is the fear-driven state of submissive obedience to authority, and a return back to the coersive false security of primeval herd-conformity.

    Hierarchy is the chaos of hyper-competition, sexual-repression, methodical organization of violence, and the continuing global mass murder of billiions.

    Hierarchical Civilized Man is not only the most dangerous man on Earth, but, through his hyper-competitive coersions and conflicts, is now the only man left on Earth.

    This is not a healthy man.

    Bad is a useless moral judgement.

    A judgement made by those who don't realize how powerful death-fear is, and how Hierarchical Authority began as a local behavioral response to a deadly environmental catastrophy.

    And once began, how Hierarchy becomes uncontrollable and self-perpetuating through its own chaotic stress.

    Just because we're trapped in this psycho-dynamic doesn't make us bad.

    Just because we're not who we think we are, and can't take responsability for the pain and destruction we cause, doesn't make us bad.

    It's not about badness it's about illness.

    Hierarchical Civilization is a total Police State, and has been for the last 500 generations.

    It's completely institutionalized.

    Slaves to Death-Fear; slaves to fear-gripped chronic anal-stimulation, anal-man submissively and chronically seeks, like an hysterical woman, the security and authority of Hierarchical father-figures.

    Hierarchy demands submissive obedience to authority built upon an institutionalized Police State.

    And has been that way since it began 500 generations ago.

    And since then, it has expanded in its neurotically methodical organization of violence that has spread across the entire globe in an irresistable chain-reaction.

    Anal-man submissively traded his freedom and his manhood long ago.

    That's why we came to this New World; to destroy the last free men on Earth.

    The last free men who could expose anal-man for the self-castrated cog of conformity that he is.

    We came to destroy, who Amerigo Vespucci said were, "Men who obey no Lords, for each is Lord unto himself".

    To destroy men who understood that you were not a real man unless you fulfilled your own unique spirit path.

    To destroy the last evidence of what it is to be free and fearless and a man.

    And let's face it, if freedom were presented to us on a silver-platter, we would turn and run screaming for the nearest Cop.
     
  9. sila

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    and slip into a whole different set of delusions, at least many did. It seems you may have done the same




    I agree the mainstream culture sucks and is detrimental to most of us, but a law-free state would be worse. In every period of history, in every known culture, rules were a part and so were those who enforced them.




    There are many forms of hierarchy, most modern states are far from totally submissive, elections help see to that.



    A major problem today is capitalism, which places more importance on money than people. Interestingly enough many capitalist countries claim to be democratic when that is impossible, democracy and capitalism cannot co-exist.
     
  10. Shambhala Peace

    Shambhala Peace Senior Member

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    Ha ha.
    You take everything out of context! And then you add babble to it. What you are stating is merely conjecture and supposition with a dash of opinion. You base none of your arguement on hard, cold, credible facts. Hence I laugh in your face. m6m, come back and make an arguement once you've realized this, otherwise you are just ranting.

    You'll find that all I have said is true, and there are facts to back them up.
     
  11. darksideofthemoon

    darksideofthemoon Senior Member

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    anarchy has potential but humans just plain suck
     
  12. skyjewelz

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    I don't think it was right for them to target hippies as druggies and beat them down and such, but it's no reason to put down all law enforcement. I know that because they have power they overdue it but without laws this world would be out of control.
     
  13. WoodstockChild

    WoodstockChild Intrepid Traveler!

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    Shambhala_peace, stop putting people down. You can't sit at the right hand of God and judge people because you don't agree.

    It's a war against the counter-culture. End of story.
     
  14. Politics are awesome

    Politics are awesome Politics suck

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    And what you are saying about law enforcement isn't putting people down?

    No... your views are immaturity, youth rebellion, etc etc....
    the law enforcement in your original post were enforcing the law. Get over yourself.
     
  15. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    I agree. See "Festival Express" for a great example...
     
  16. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    What I think is rich is that in this kids Biography hew ants to live in 1969 when a woman had no right to choose, gay people were forced to stay in the closet more so than today, America was STILL in an unjust war, et cetera...et cetera...

    And yeah, Woodstock, you seem very narrow in your understanding of past events...

    Point 1) I would hope that law enforcemtn officers are armed. Otherwise they serisouly have a head and shoulders below the scum they are trying to catch
    Point 2) This has been covered, but those peple WERE breaking the law, and it isn't like they broke into their house to search them, they were in an open public place...
    It is called resisting arrest
    and THEY are the ones who are sick...riiiight
     
  17. HighDesertHippie

    HighDesertHippie Banned

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    Just because something is the 'law' doesn't make it right, it only means you can be jailed for it by others who have deemed it right. Mindless sheep don't have the intelligence to realize that. If the law says 'witches' shall be burned at the stake, that doesn't make it right.


    Sig heil!
     
  18. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    So what are you going to do about it?
    If you think the possession and use of certain chemicals is fine, what are you doing about it?
    If you think police are brutal, what are you doing about it?

    If you think this society needs a shake up, what are you doing about it
    besides watching TV and whining on the 'net to a buch of people who are looking to be mean...

    If somthing needs fixing, what are you waiting for?
     
  19. WoodstockChild

    WoodstockChild Intrepid Traveler!

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    To get out of high school.
     
  20. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    why? you have passion NOW. Use that (makes school more interesting, too)
    Even if you simply contribute online for a while, you might help another teen seeking as well.
    That's synergy: where two parts are far more than their whole.

    crawl around on meet up:
    I found veggies in El Paso (hey I was a Texas veggie for several years)
    http://vegetarian.meetup.com/cities/us/tx/el_paso/

    how about hooking up with Any woman for peace?
    http://awfp.meetup.com/cities/us/tx/el_paso/
    greens:
    http://green.meetup.com/cities/us/tx/el_paso/

    see what a resource this could be?

    http://www.meetup.com/cities/us/tx/el_paso/
    just play around with the tabs: cultures and community looks promising.
     
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