I look forward to aban on foxhunting. Foxhuntin gis a poor substitute for genuine sport, and is a cruel substitute for proper pest control. That said, taking delight in setting a pack of bloodthirsty hounds upon a fox is the kind of barbarity that I wish to see eradicated in our society. i don't care if a few pro-hunt cunts complain about their livelihoods and liberties. You still have other liberties, which aren't as cruel, and you can get new livelihoods. foxhunting is a poor excuse for a "livelihood" in my eyes.
Would you have said that during the abolition of the slave trade too? You could rewrite that last statement like this: The truth is that it is all propaganda, all of the points you raise have been addressed time and time again ... http://www.league.uk.com/contact_us/faqs.htm
The slave trade involved people. That is one of the things I hate about many animal rights fanatics they seem to care more about animals than people. For example when the pro-hunt demo in Parliament Square was attacked by police who caused appalling inuries to demonstrators why was there no outcry from the left. If it had been a left wing demo where people had their heads split open with truncheons there would have been screams of condemnation and calls to sue the police. Those people who were injured that day may have been fox hunters but they were still people and the police who inflicted those injuries were scum, they should have been prosecuted for GBH!
Ha! Ha! Ha! Now that has to be the best post you've written so far, you spanner! This proves you have so little understanding of hunt sabs, the relationship between the pro-hunt lobby and the police etc, etc. When the miners were on strike did any of those idiots give a shit...did they fuck. Why the fuck would the left want anything to do with two sets of right-wing muppets playing handbags togethor? You plum! You really don't have a clue. You sound like a 15 year old whose been listening to his fathers ranting at the telly.
None of us here are fanatics Treehouse. We all care about humans as much as animals. But if you think we are, and hate us for it.... I won't lose sleep.
Well you might be close to the truth there ... There is a complete lack of personal information on his profile.
This just shows you up for the ignorant little turd that you are. Almost everyone that I've ever met in the animal rights movement has been involved out of a strong sense of compassion for all living things. You may have noticed that those of us here who are most vehemently opposed to hunting are also vehemently opposed to the war in Iraq. Regardless of whether you agree with that politically, it should at least demonstrate to you that we care as much about people as we do about animals. Your failure to see this demonstrates what a narrow-minded idiot you are. There was no outcry from the left because the hunt have been inflicting worse violence than that on sabs for years.
That statement shows how ignorant you are! People who support the war in Iraq don't actually like war, they hate it, but they understand that it is sometimes neccesary to deal with wicked, evil regimes, which have no respect for human rights or international law. Saddam was given every chance in the book to avoid war including going into exile. War happened incidently because he was found to be spying on the UN inspectors, thus blowing his last chance to avoid war. You are also totally ignorant when you say there was no outcry because of violence to sabs, many of the people injured were women and old people! There was no outcry because the biased left and animal rights fanatics think anyone who hunts foxes deserves a good bashing. That means they put animals before humans.
No you twat it means that we think people who hunt foxes deserve a good bashing. Very black and white your little world init!
Yeah but splitting peoples heads open with truncheons and leaving them covered in blood goes well beyond a good bashing, especially when its old people and women. Its GBH, and people who wont condemn that sort of brutality by police are almost as bad as the people who carry out such brutal attacks. The fact is the police broke the law by inflicting, serious wounding to people which could easily have resulted in death as the wounds were caused by savage blows to the head. Everyone whatever their opinion on fox hunting should have been outraged!
Oh yes I was so outraged....weren't you John....yes,awful...dreadful situation that...shouldn't be allowed.....
And that statement shows that you can't read. I said that people opposed to animal cruelty are usually opposed to human cruelty too. As a further example of your idiocy and ignorance, you've gone on to cut the quote short, at the point where I wrote "regardless of whether you agree with the politics". Because that was the case in point - people who are involved in the animal rights movement clearly have a compassion for all living things. Are you just trying to turn this into another one of your rants about Iraq? Ah, so you're a sexist too? Are women inferior to men then? Well I'm one of the people who didn't cry out, so I think I know a little more about my reasons that you do. And the reasons are as stated: the hunt has treated sabs with violence for years, so it's kinda hard to feel much sympathy when the hunt are on the receiving end for a change. This doesn't mean that anyone cares less about people (although I can see why you might resort to such a crass simplification). It simply means that there's a lot of history and bad blood between the two movements. I think we might have been a little more outraged if the hunt hadn't been encouraging the police to kick the shit out of sabs for many years beforehand. Is this the best argument you have to support hunting, by the way?
Hmm, not sure if that "John" refers to me (I have no "h") but as I stated at the start of this thread, I find the notion of inflicting pain on another being abhorrent.
Police brutality is wrong full stop. Yes, I guess I didnt feel as much outrage as for fighters of what I see as just causes.... but I felt outrage non the less.
If I was right wing then surely I would not have oppossed the tyrannical regime of Saddam Hussein, a regime sadistic and cruel beyond belief. At one time regimes like Saddam's would have been the lefts' worst nightmare and they would have gladly welcomed military action to bring about the destruction of such a regime. The Spanish civil war being a good example when thousands of communists and anarchists fought on the Republican side against Francos' fascist army. And don't come out with that crap that Saddam was no threat to us, he murdered, tortured and imprisoned innocent people, whether they were Iraqis or not made no difference, we had a moral duty to end such an evil regime!
Christian morality yeah? Don't use examples of working class people uniting to fight a common enemy when you quite clearly don't give a toss about working class people from the US, UK and Iraq (not forgetting others) getting their brains blown out. Idiot.
