Hundreds of children being taken from their parents at US border

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  1. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    USA is a country, not a monastery or an ashram
     
  2. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Even if it was, cant take everybody in or help everybody
     
  3. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    We actually hurt the countries that can't hold them ...we are only taking the few that can help those poor countries...thanks for the docs and lawyers India and mexico...
     
  4. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Leftists should take a cue from the refugees. People want to come here. Stop trying to destroy what we have.
     
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  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    A country of immigrants even ;)
     
  6. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    Most of these people are criminals to be honest. Most of them aren't the families seeking asylum as portrayed on mainstream media.
     
  7. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    Exactly. That way the US can run a background on you to make sure you're of good merit and won't be a burden on the US.
     
  8. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    LEGAL immigrants, mind you.
     
  9. unfocusedanakin

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    Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your shore

    That is the quote many of our ancestors saw. People who not think America is their country when we stole it from the natives. We came from a far away land and forced OUR religion on them. Sounds like of Sharia Law doesn't it? Though I don't expect many Trump voters to get that.The average child risking being deported probably speaks English as a first language and is just as "American" as anyone. Many of these kids don't even get a lawyer at their trial because in America justice costs money. It's hundreds of dollars an hour for speeding tickets and tens of thousands to paperer a legal case for them. The alternative when you have no money is the public attorney. A person who rather than having a few cases they give 110% to they have literally hundreds of cases. No one can get the time they deserve so the best the attorney does is the standard plea deals and other textbook defenses.

    Most Americans would struggle to afford an attorney today if the needed one. And people who's father may not speak English probably do not have high paying jobs. That alone is not an American thing. Everyone has the right to a fair trial. The issue of throwing adults out is another one. But when we throw children out who did not choose to be born here we have really lost a lot of Christian/basic ethical values. America says it's a Christian nation but we do not act like it. We think a country is over crowded when you can literally drive hours in this country and see nothing or only small towns. Out entire population could live in Texas. It would be much more cramped with large cities but every American could live there with the rest of the country empty.

    It's ridiculous to think a land of immigrants can not do something more humane than this. If it were up to me I would say any person who knows they are illegal but who can also prove enrollment in school or employment prior to a certain date is eligible for an American citazinship test. You will be forgiven for "breaking the law" because as a citezin you now pay taxes and are not able to be employed illegally. Employers are forgiven because they are not employing Americans and in the past they employed a person feeding an American family. Seems like I have solved the wall issue. They are now equal there is noting but your own ability separated you from that job. Pedro the illegal can not work for half our minnium wage and why would he want to now?

    The kids are not the problem. It's a country where even when you are poor life is pretty good compared to other places. And a country that rewards the people who employ illegal but not the actual illegal. If you are not a citezin you have nothing. The only thing they can not deny you is urgent medical care. Which some people seem to moan about but the American ER system in general is ineggecient. The cost is not an illegal's fault. And if you go to an ER they will want your name, your ID, your social security card. If you have none of these things the white lady at the desk might call the police it's risky.

    If some right wing people went to Mexico or south of Mexico their Ar-15 would still not save them from the life there. What is a young man going to do? He can make money and be in the gang but live a life of murder, lies, and drugs. Or he can live in fear of those men and probably make very little money because there is no good work.
     
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  10. Meliai

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    The article is referring to children taken from their parents when they present themselves at a legal checkpoint
     
  11. Noserider

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    Quit confusing them with facts.
     
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  12. Meliai

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    Facts iz hard
     
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  13. 6-eyed shaman

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    I was born the US, as were my parents and their parent's parents.

    So no, a lot of us actually aren't immigrants.
     
  14. Maccabee

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    The fact that the article states that she fought through tear gas leads me to believe that there's more to the story than what is presented. I've crossed the border (though on the Canadian side) several times and I never been subject to tear gas.
     
  15. NotMyRealName

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    So where in those words did it ever say....and we shall provide you free housing, free healthcare, free education, free child rearing?

    This have all been silently added by the liberals that are determined to drain this country's resources.
     
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  16. machinist

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    Its all about compassion, bro. Liberals are way more compassionate than you. We just cant have enough compassion. We are all immigrants that dont like the current wave of immigrants dont ya know.*

    *sarcasm
     
  17. Meliai

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    You need to read it more carefully

    It said she fled her home in Honduras through a cloud of teargas. The teargas didnt happen at the US border
     
  18. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    My mistake. But from the same article the Border Patrol isn't just doing this as some deterrent. People have used the child ploy as a way to get in even if the child isn't theirs.
     
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  19. Asmodean

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    I wasn't claiming otherwise. But your country is a country of immigrants. It was made and shaped by immigrants more so than most other countries.
     
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    Human trafficking is a real thing and if someone comes across the border without proof the child is theirs, certain measures must be taken to ensure the child is not being used as a sex slave and or the child is kidnaped by one of the parents.
     

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