... its funny cause you just contridicted yourself. It would be impossible to produce adequate food for the US today on existing farmlands without refrigeration.
To my republican relatives and friends, I am a leftist. To my communist friends I am too far to the right. I have respect for and understand most of them on both sides of me. My republican parents both grew up poor. I grew up lower middle class and resented those "rich kids" that had it all so easy. The Viet Nam war was winding down while I was in high school. I was extremly interested in world affairs, sociology and politics and the more I read and saw, the further to the left I moved. I know very well about the abuses of capitalism. I had good friends who's family members were killed by the US backed Contras in Central America. I've seen Hatians imported to south Florida, kepted in camps for cutting sugar cane, paid almost nothing, then shipped back to Haiti, where they can't rise up against their right wing government to demand better pay and conditions because the US, keeps their govenment too well armed. I am all too well aware of the abuses of capitalism that causes people to turn to the idea of communism. Those of the right wing who say, deregulate businesses and industry and the world will be a better place are just as foolish as those who believe the other extreme- communism- complete and total regulation of business and industry. I've always thought of myself as a "hippy" at heart. For one reason, I love my freedom. I love my individualism. I've also worked hard all my life, and I think I'm a very good judge of human nature. All working together for a common good is great. But when you take away individualism, and self motivation, you kill the spirit and society as a whole becomes a mob rule, and bogged down with mediocracy. Suggested novel to read- "The Fountainhead" Tame the beast of free enterprise. Control it for the betterment of all people but don't kill it because it's part of who and what we are. Struggle through the ice age, is what made us wiser and stronger. The ideal communist world would produce nothing but weakness.
Look man I believe in heaven on Earth, now if you could imagine that their would be no government but people governing themselvse and their own actions. But respecting our human family makes us better people wholisticly. We would not be considered as selfish this way. We would be working to make the world go round smoothly and harmoniously. True Communism Is NOT a form of Government, It is NO GOVERNMENT. JUST LIFE.
True Communism is NO govenment? Just life? So, if we are in a tribe together and I work twice as hard as you in the field because you are basicly a lazy ass, and you still get as much food for your family as I do, why the hell shouldn't I be a lazy ass too. Why the hell should I work so hard? For the betterment of the tribe? As you raise your kids to be lazy asses too, so me and my kids have to work even harder to feed your growing lazy ass family? Stuggle and survival of the fitest is "just life". Yes, respecting our human family does make us better people wholisticly. As a Taoist, I can't stress enough the importance of balance between the two extremes, selflesness and selfishness. Primative so-called communal tribes don't advance without some kind of strggle to push them along. And they are often brutal to their own people. Not to mention they fight with other tribes over resourses. Mankinds struggle between the left and right, selfless and selfish, strong and weak, haves and have nots, can only become more fair and peaceful by creating more balance, by fine tuning the struggle away from the extremes and coming closer to the center, not as you suggest by tilting to the extreme . Mankind would become weak, stupid and die out. By the way, Zion, what do you do for a living?
Are you sure your toasit, its to my understanding that toaists live off the land. with noo government but self government. True communism. Not the fascist government communism, the no government communism. You cant be a toasit, a toast wouldnt be so pesimitc. Toa is another word for heaven on Earth or the heavenly way. Which does not speak negativley of humans. It encouragrs humans not to be lazy. It says your alive so bare fruit, in appreciation. Thats why Im not lazy. I appreciate life to much to just let it pass without my interaction. Or giving more beauty to this world. Reluctantly Im a filkmmaker so I do just that.I would hate to go my grave and now I left nothing behind. BUt whiles Im a college student, I make music, films, set construction, and art. So you money makes people work. As if humans didn't do any work before money came along. I have full faith in human capabilities, I have seen what we can do. I don't believe we general want to be lazy, or uneducted, or die out, because we wouldn't be here today otherwise. Buddhist Rasta, Omish, monks, and natives, of all the earth live off the land and care about scientific progress. And their just fine. Theres a reason people feel ashamed of themselvs. Because the stray from the Ideal. If everyone were ideal the mentality to work the good of humans would discourage them from being lazy. I think the argument here is,I have faith that humans can govern themselves, but you accept the world you say and say there is no hope. One strives to get better, the other studies why were bad.
This world was created with fallouts, get over it. Human nature itself is reason enough to destroy any government. But the harder we plan a government and the more flexible and endurant it is, the better it can cope with the fallouts. The better they are covered.
Your undoubtably right, I just can give up faith that humans can be righteous just because of the 1% possibilty of unification. Especially since thats the right thing to do. The people I can influence to be righteous, the closer we get to a righteous world. But the first step is accepting the possibility of change.
Quote from Zion- "Are you sure your toasit, its to my understanding that toaists live off the land. with noo government but self government. True communism. Not the fascist government communism, the no government communism. You cant be a toasit, a toast wouldnt be so pesimitc." __________________________ First you're right, I'm not a toast. Or a bagel. I'm a taoist (I meant that in good humor, as I am no one to correct others spellin' .lol). Second, the majority of taoists have regular jobs or as I do, have their own businesses. Third, I don't see how you equate what I've said as pesimistic. I have the greatest faith in mankind. We after all, are the only hope of life on this planet carrying on, long after our sun and planet has died. Part of taoism, to me, is observing and understanding nature, and the nature of all things. Understanding the "animal nature" of man, the instincts that have at times seemed brutal but have helped us survive, is important. If the goal is to bring about a peaceful harmonious world, it must happen in harmony with nature, which means taming and focusing the nature of mankind, not killing it. As for no govenment. There is good govenment and bad govenment. Govenment, if it is fair and just, is all those who live under it come to agreement on the rules to live by that would keep them from wanting to kill each other. All groups of people have "govenment" every commune, every tribe. Without any goventment, you have the strong abusing the weak. As a world society, we are still learning how to make govenment fair and balanced. It tips off balance to the left and right in different places at different times, but I do have faith that we will get it right in the next 50 years or so. Peace on earth is possible, but some form of (more peacefull and less deadly) conflict and struggle must remain to keep our bodies, minds and spirits sharp.
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ý love uhey,ým happy cause ý started to thýnk that most of the people ýn the world wont care about anythýng.when ý saw people lýke u who thýnks about world,etc ý start to belýve human also another world that everybody lýve ýn peace agaýn.thank u,mucxxxxxxxx
First you're right, I'm not a toast. Or a bagel. I'm a taoist (I meant that in good humor, as I am no one to correct others spellin' .lol). Second, the majority of taoists have regular jobs or as I do, have their own businesses. Third, I don't see how you equate what I've said as pesimistic. I have the greatest faith in mankind. We after all, are the only hope of life on this planet carrying on, long after our sun and planet has died. Part of taoism, to me, is observing and understanding nature, and the nature of all things. Understanding the "animal nature" of man, the instincts that have at times seemed brutal but have helped us survive, is important. If the goal is to bring about a peaceful harmonious world, it must happen in harmony with nature, which means taming and focusing the nature of mankind, not killing it. As for no govenment. There is good govenment and bad govenment. Govenment, if it is fair and just, is all those who live under it come to agreement on the rules to live by that would keep them from wanting to kill each other. All groups of people have "govenment" every commune, every tribe. Without any goventment, you have the strong abusing the weak. As a world society, we are still learning how to make govenment fair and balanced. It tips off balance to the left and right in different places at different times, but I do have faith that we will get it right in the next 50 years or so. Peace on earth is possible, but some form of (more peacefull and less deadly) conflict and struggle must remain to keep our bodies, minds and spirits sharp.[/QUOTE] So economic oppression is not the strong oppressing the weak? This isn't why third world countries exist? Last but not least This isn't why humans are actually starving, whiles others are obeaste. Rules are political, the truth is manditory. The truth sees beyond violence, for it is our only constant. Polictics are an argument from the start. People can't create rules. We have to be accepted what works. Which is to say that humans will be wise enough to behaves themselves. And your right government is inevitable. But the only government that is fair is the one we were born into.
These un-balanced delusional fears of Civilized Man run as deep as our effeminate civilized death-fear itself. The True Man has no death-fear. A Brave, lifted through the forest, by the breath of every radiant leaf. Bounding with the un-thinking freedom of the fearless stag, He leaps upon his prey with the ease of a knifing dive into clear water. He lays his prey before all his tribal family; all his mothers, all his fathers, all his children, needing no thought for himself. Beyond thinking, beyond knowing, the True Man is invinsible in his faith. His faith in every fiber of his muscle, and every fearless breath of his body. Only the fearless know NOT hunger. He can go days and days without food. Only the fearless can surrender to the flow of nature, to the eternal moment in time. His children can play all day naked in the snow. Our civilized children die of hypothermia in 15minutes!
Wh yare you all so woried about governments? They're only sovriegn so long as you consider yourselves their subjects. What will they do to you, beat you? Put you behind stone and bars? Kill you? It's bettr to die on your feet than live on your knees.
But do you need a refridgeator? Do you needthe latest model with climate control and a water despenser in the door? Also, notice your word today. No we can't do it today. Have you heard of the soil bank?
Well I could probably survive without a fridge in my house, but there wouldn't be enough food with commercial refridgeration, that means we'd have to import massive amounts of food from a nation that was wise enough to use refrigeration. I would also be throwing a lot of money in food away without one, it would be wasteful not to have one. Food would be more expensive, and people wouldn't eat as well. A soil bank is land put aside to become more fertile, I don't see how thats relevant... unless you're suggesting using that land for agriculture too, which would be more wasteful... we should be looking into ways to reduce waste, not make more. Without technology there is waste, technology is the solution to trying to do more with less, which is the desire of all organisms. It's only in the past 50 years that countries like China and India have been able to produce enough food, and thats because of massive technological help from the US and the UN. They had dirt, they had water, they had sun, but they lacked machines to plant and harvest crops more effeciently, they lacked refridgeration to keep the food better longer, and they lacked hybrid strains that produce more food per acre.