How to prepare Psychedelic seeds

Discussion in 'Exotic Psychedelic Plants' started by ancient powers, Jun 19, 2008.

  1. Eskimo101

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    would i go to mainstreetgardensupply.com to find their website?
     
  2. Severely stoned

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  3. The Mushroom Man

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    This thread needs to be stickied! Kudos to you ancient, many many kudos!

    The Mushroom Man
     
  4. Eskimo101

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    damn theyre hella cheaper too
     
  5. Not Mike

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    yeah and they work. I ordered a half pound a few weeks ago
     
  6. Severely stoned

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    ^^ sure do.
     
  7. ancient powers

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    Hey you guys. Im back. Trip out you all liked my picture tek. Well let me tell you guys a new story. I finally tried this batch of MGS that I got from BBB this weekend. I ordered heavenly blues but they sent me pearly gates. They still have never done me wrong. I used 12gs (3 hits). Took em up in the mountains at the palomar observatory campground in socal. I have never done the MGS only the HBWRS. I have waited a long time in my experiments for this experience. I dropped at high noon. after 30 min the ergoline poisoning kicked in. That lasted for about 30-45 min. Some slight naseua and belching. Man at about 45min I was trippin. The ergolines dissolved my ego/mind very sweetly. My body/soul became mind. I could drink alcohol after the ergoline poisoning was finished without any side effects. I have never tripped so good. The best I have ever done. The MGS are definetly more magical for me than the HBWRS. Once again I felt like Albert Hoffman the discoverer of LSD. The extra ergolines in the seeds, companion with the LSA and give it more magic. I felt like when you smoke salvia but it was stickin. Next time Im bringin some salvia smoke to add to the experience. The lemon juice turns the naturally base ergoline alkaloids into a more stable salt form. I think we have one up on the indians with there matates and their water to our coffee grinders and lemon juice. Well anyways on one of my walks I met a man with a bitchin telescope who looked and sounded just like Albert Hoffman. It was a sign. The details are to much to describe. I just came back to write about it. Thank you all for enjoying this thread. I know we will never have to worry about bunk acid again. Try these links for info and sources.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipomea
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_Entheogenic_Complex
    http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/morning-glory-p-124.html
    http://www.mainstreetseedandsupply.com/flmorninggloryseed.htm
    http://www.fs.fed.us/
    http://diseyes.lycaeum.org/olo/olo.htm
    http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory.shtml
    http://www.coffeecoffee.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=CTS377&Category_Code=CACCR

    :rolleyes:
     
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    I think I should add that the reason I waited so long for the MGS was because I have waited all my life for what I saw the other day. All my research lead to the fact the the Aztec used the seeds to worship the sun god. Also another thing to note was that the Ipomea seeds were the main entheogenic sacrament of the aztec seers. My recent experiments with mescaline and the hbwrs have led me to the fact with both seeds and san pedro daytime trips in nature are the best settings for these type of sacraments. Salvia, ayahuasca, mushrooms are probably best done at night. So with that said. It explains why I waited for such a sacred moment and it all might have been less. Next time no alcohol. No non trippers. Salvia to smoke and ayahuasca to drink at nite before bed.
     
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    Another thing which is still untested is extracting a big as batch of the seeds with 99% isopropyl rubbing alcohol using the same method of 30min then strained with the reusable coffee filter. Evaping in a cool dark place. Drying the extract and adding it to some drinkable ethanol to make the tincure. We need volunteers. Im busy doing other things. Like working on the salvia tincture.
     
  10. Severely stoned

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    I'm glad you have found the power of the MGS brother :) I don't know how many seeds 12g is but the last time I dropped I took 1100 flying saucers with a modified version of your extraction (more water, some sugar, some lemon juice.) I've never thought of using saliva on seeds, but I've never had a full blown saliva experince either.
     
  11. ancient powers

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    4gs is 100 seeds more or less. I only used 300 seeds 12gs and had a full blown psychedelic experience. I admit it was only the gates of it. But I walked right in. Yeah a full blown salvia experience has been achieved by me through 1 half bowl pull of salvia 10x. One whole hit. I tried to find the right postion to achieve ultimate salvia nirvana. laying on couch! no. indian style, no. standing up no. I got up dancing a spin counter clockwise as the floor spun. I got up and began talking to salvia about the right postioning. I wondered what someone would say if they saw me and thought about my sleeping son. Next thing I know Im walking outside and forgot what had happened and was in a moment that seemed to be just as it was suppossed to be. A viel had been lifted off my conscience and I was able to see clearly through my mind. I had tried to fight off the salvia as it was sweeping me away. But I was only led outside to be shown that that was the way I was to take salvia. Outside in nature. I sat outside for a long time it seemed and the clear mind of the psyche never faded. I never had a salvia trip last so long. So my question was answered what was the best position to take salvia? outside in any postion. As it was for the seeds and the cactus was true for the extracted form of smoked salvia. Now the tincture at nite is another story and smoking salvia with that. we will see.
     
  12. Severely stoned

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    I might order some more salvia one of these days, defiantly x20 though, x5 barely did anything for me.

    On my 44g dose (1100). I felt perfectly sober, but my ego was gone. There was nothing in my mind because I knew all the answers, there were no visuals at all, none. But the mind high was indescribable. Ancient, I request that you try a dose around 800-1100 seeds all by it's self (no alcohol, no weed, no salvia). I believe you and I are the most dedicated lsa explorers on this forum and I would like to know how your experince is at a higher dose.
     
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    Man I dont think you would die. I OD'd on mescaline. Not really. But the intensity of taking more than enough Kind of turned me off. No visions or thoughts. I know how that feels. 1100 is 11 hits of acid. My research not experience says that 8 hits is the max. any more than that doesnt seem to get any stronger. refer to these articles

    http://www.egodeath.com/EntheogenTheoryOfReligion.htm
    http://www.flashback.se/archive/tibetan.html#33

    It's in there somewhere. I dont have to time to find it again. I will be going camping again. I hate wasting my trips inside in my everyday house. I have to recover energy for another trip before I go. It will be better and I might just dose 20gs 5hits to make sure Im there. But 8-11 is a ways down the road. I want to find my comfort zone to do my personal exploration first. 12gs is a great start.
     
  14. Severely stoned

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    I hate indoor tripping too, I actually haveto go outside to trip sometimes and as soon as i get back inside i start falling off my peak.

    And I would efinatly encourage you to go at your own pace, what i did was a little reckless, (my last trip was only 500). So once you reach higher doses be sure to update me on your findings :D.
     
  15. Not Mike

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    How are the auditory hallucinations for you guys on LSA (ancient/severely)? So far I have found LSA to give me the most profound auditory hallucinations of any substance so far (vs. weed/shrooms/salvia). I'm a musician, so hearing what kind of music/sounds my mind is capable of is very interesting...

    My last experience with LSA I had 400 mg seeds. I like tripping at night, with my senses deprived, so I turned off all of the lights and lied down on my bedroom floor. I heard music the entire time I was tripping and as I drifted in and out of sleep I saw people walking around my room... not as mind-boggling as shrooms, but still powerful and much more directed.

    If I can get my hands on some petroleum ether I will let you know how things work out.. any idea how much the stuff costs?
     
  16. Severely stoned

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    The first time I did LSA (400 seeds) I had some very very intense auditory hallucinations. I could hear a little girl's voice constantly asking in my head, over and over again "Why do you feel this way?" "Why do you feel this way?" The first time as if it were a normal question and the second time (after a short pause) much slower but still posed as a question. I also could hear a far away police siren that seemed to stay the same volume (pretty far away sounding) and it would get faster then slower and keep repeating the same pattern. On my most recent, 1100 seed trip I briefly heard the siren hallucination again but it faded after like 10 minutes.
     
  17. klondike_bar

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    I am curious how much water is needed to fully absorb LSA from ground MG seeds?

    I have done CWE several times with lemon juice, but hate having to drink the large glass of nastiness after the absorbtion period.

    If i grind 500 seeds, what is the minimum amount of water/lemon juice is needed to fully extract the LSA?

    and what about using peppermint oil to create LSH? I heard something about that before...
     
  18. Severely stoned

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    Just barely cover the seeds when you first add your 1/3 lemon juice 2/3 water concotion to it. Throughout the 30 mins of sirring and waiting add slightly more to keep it saturated and liquidy. All you need is for it to be 100% saturated.
     
  19. klondike_bar

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    sweet. put just enuf lemon to form a gunk overnight so that i can add a little water and chug come morning.

    so it only needs to become saturaded mainly? my last few times i had like a cup of water per 400 seeds, and it was nasty drinking it all down.
     
  20. Severely stoned

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    DO NOT DO IT OVER NIGHT. You need to have the seeds in the water for 30 minutes not a minute more not a minute less.

    And yes just enough to saturate the seeds with a 1:3 lemon juice 2:3 (nonchlorinated) water mix. I've found it's easiest to get it down the less there is, you can also use somthing like apple juice instead of water to help the taste. But again don't do it over night.

    After you do the hour long extraction process you can leave the liquid in your dark refrigerator over night without losing potency or anything just don't let the seeds sit in there for that long or you will get sick and be sad.
     

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