How to have a really enlightening trip

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by icecreampheonix, Jan 13, 2010.

  1. icecreampheonix

    icecreampheonix Member

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    But many would say that a month is too often. Since last April I've taken acid 14 times, and I'm not sure that doing it so frequently is all that good. But they've all been half to 2 tab doses. But I think if I did 4 5 tab doses, then I may be more satisfied with each and thus not need to repeat so soon.
     
  2. FreshDacre

    FreshDacre Senior Member

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    Did you read my post? I said that that was one of the reasons taking small doses is so awesome, because you can take it alot more often without bad results.
     
  3. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    I have taken small doses and enjoyed it immensely. But to comprehend and fully understand and appreciate what you have read and heard from others about how life changing an LSD experience can be you have to take a break- through dose. There is no substitute for it.

    The thing I have noticed often on these forums are individuals who talk all the talk, but reading in-between the lines I know that they have never "broken through" with LSD. I can't explain it, no one can, but those that have been there can tell when others have or haven't. That is why Mr. Writer keeps on about it and why pr0ne always says increase dosage. They can read between the lines and see that you haven't had the experience yet.

    There is nothing to fear about it, and don't think that the small doses give you insight into a break-through experience, they don't. Small doses have their time and place, but if you really want to understand what can't be spoken you need to increase dosage.

    It's like going on a roller coaster, scary as shit as you climb up the track and feel gravity pulling on you and hear the rattle of the cars on the track. You look down and get apprehensive thinking "What have I got myself into". But when that coaster crests the peak and starts to plummet down and gain speed, the apprehension gives way to exhilaration and thrill. When you go whipping around turns and are tossed to and fro the excitement builds and the elation is beyond comprehension. Finally when your ride slows towards an end you realize that you conquered it and came through the other side and have gained from it more than ever could be articulated.

    The Beatles said it well:

    Turn off your mind, relax and float down stream,
    It is not dying, it is not dying
    Lay down all thoughts, surrender to the void,
    It is shining, it is shining.
    Yet you may see the meaning of within
    It is being, it is being
    Love is all and love is everyone
    It is knowing, it is knowing
    And ignorance and hate mourn the dead
    It is believing, it is believing
    But listen to the colour of your dreams
    It is not leaving, it is not leaving
    So play the game "Existence" to the end
    Of the beginning, of the beginning


    But those lyrics can only be "known" by someone who has broken through, died and been reborn through an LSD journey.
     
  4. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Actually you may find that taking a large dose and having a true break-through psychedelic experience may last with you for a very long time.
    I am still processing some of the material I journeyed through during a "journey" with mescaline in July.
    If you are doing it to get high or to party then you do not yet get the point of psychedelics.
     
  5. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    I'm only gonna say this one more time (at least in this thread);
    LSD is LSD
    It either is LSD or it isn't.
    It's not like pot where there are different grades and types.
    The only considerations with LSD is if it really is LSD and strength of each dose.
    Sad thing is most LSD available today is weak in my opinion, so you may think WOW I took TWO tabs man, when in actuality you probably only took about 100-120ugs. Thats only about two thirds the strength of doses I took when I was younger, and I routinely took two, sometimes three if I wanted to break on through to the other side.

    Really sounds as if you need to educate yourself more about LSD and not just from the guy down the street. Read A. Hofmann's book "LSD, My Problem Child"

    http://www.psychedelic-library.org/child.htm

    Oh, and increase dosage :D
     
  6. FreshDacre

    FreshDacre Senior Member

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    That's what i'm saying if you aren't feeling "enlightened", then it probably isn't acid. Mabey it used to be acid, but got changed by heat/light which makes chemical reactions and makes in "nasty" lsd, not technically lsd anymore of course.
    I know that the more you take the more "enlightening" it is, thats the thing though is when I took 2, I felt as enlightened as I would ever WANT to feel, and I like knowing that I can always go further if I want to.
    I have pushed the limit on salvia, in this drug's respect I completely agree with the whole increase dosage theory. If you are getting weak salvia/and or taking weak hits, then you are completely missing the point of salvia. The further you go in salvia space, the more different "out of this dimension" beings you encounter and the more dimensions you are able to experience. With LSD, its more about being in a state of mind of pure bliss, salvia is for experiencing the impossible.
    I feel that I have already experienced everything I could possibly want in a psycadelic with salvia, so that's another reason I haven't gone "all out" with LSD, also not to mention I never heard of anyone going crazy from salvia.
     
  7. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    If you aren't feeling "enlightened" by the acid then it may have degraded to a weaker dosage. LSD doesn't change into something else, it degrades into inert substances. What you are experiencing is low doses.

    Salvia and LSD are two completely different classes and type of drugs.
    You are in error if you are comparing the two. There is very little commonality between them. Maybe your salvia experiences have got you apprehensive about higher doses of LSD. That worry is ill-founded because there really can not be any real comparison between the two.
     
  8. hellixxx

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    honestly man i wouldn't even consider salvia a psychedelic. it's really intense, and you get really insane visuals, but it is a very different state of mind compared to other psychedelics. not the same at all, at least not in my experience

     
  9. FreshDacre

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    Well I have been the furthest out of this realm of "time and space" with salvia, every time I think of my trip I just get the chills and cannot stop thinking about it. When these trips happened, I knew for a fact nothing would ever be as intense as what I was experiencing in that one single moment, unless I did salvia to that extent again. Every time I have done it again, I get more and more scared every time. It takes serious serious balls to keep doing alot.

    Sorry I really can't stop thinking about salvia lol. But yeah call it what you want helixx but imo it is a psychedelic. No it is not a psychedelic actually sorry I'm high just thinking but yeah there is something about the two drugs DMT and salvia, both of these have more power than any psyche, so they are the KINGS of psyches. When you prepare for these you are getting ready to leave this realm.
     
  10. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Yeah but a high dose of LSD is bursting with beauty and peace, not fright and disorientation like salvia.

    Take all our advice and next time you come across some good acid, at least double what you usually take and see what we are talking about. Forget about your salvia experiences, they have no relation to LSD.
    Just do it with the proper respect for set and setting.

    Being the KING of psychedelics doesn't mean which one takes you the farthest "out there". Just because something induces wild visuals and thoughts doesn't mean it's the best psychedelic.
    Psychedelic means "mind manifesting". I personally feel mescaline is about the best psychedelic and it is actually weak in terms of visuals compared to LSD and mushrooms.
    I do think salvia is classified as a hallucinogenic delerient, much as belladonna is.
     
  11. MokshaMedicine

    MokshaMedicine Banned

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    Wow. I'm never taking a higher dose. From my observations on this thread it seems to perpetuate ego in the long run. :D

    Just kidding. Mr. Writer seems to wish to distinguish himself aside or perhaps above a lot of other LSD users because he chooses to take high doses.

    I myself have had many experiences with LSD. Some of which were very out of body and insisted on the loss of ego. I have found though that I am very sensitive to LSD for whatever reason. One hit (if potent enough) can blow my top especially if cannabis is in the picture.

    The idea that just taking a substance can enlighten you is wrong in my opinion. It can offer a temporary direct experience with it. You can obviously take many things you learned during the experience and apply it to your life. Also the lingering effects of LSD vary in length depending on the person. For me I'd still feel like I have taken LSD even after a few months of not doing it. Some of the effects include being less attached to the ego but this does not mean enlightenment.

    I don't have a real argument against what PB and Writer say. I am going to take your advice and increase my dosage. Although I've had very over the top experiences on the lower doses some of the weaker acid I've taken there was still an attachment to the ego (again. Not always the case)

    Good thread. My advice in this would be even after a long a break from Lucy be sure to be more observant of your feelings... distinguish the selfish from the selfless. The ego from the pure being. Also practice meditation and yoga because this is another path to realization of the being of pure energy.
     
  12. Mr.Writer

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    I don't give a shit about myself in this thread, I am only continuously playing the broken record of "INCREASE DOSAGE" until people finally, exasperated, give it one shot. That's all they need. To fear a high dose is natural but to embrace the fear is not.
     
  13. moosemoose

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    drugsrbad mkay
     
  14. Skizm

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    Have a Budweiser and a Marlboro Red. Sit back, drink, smoke, and be proud to be an American with no tolerance for all that hippy shit these guys keep going on about.

    Drugsrbad!

    srsly, drugsrbad.
     
  15. sw0o0sh

    sw0o0sh Banned

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    ^ Lol the classic irony.
     
  16. itsallgood

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    iam lost beyond lost
     
  17. Chidakasha

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    Maybe if we just keep posting in this thread we'll all just eventually become more and more enlightened that we finally just burst through our computer screens and stop all time and space in it's tracks.
     
  18. sw0o0sh

    sw0o0sh Banned

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    i'm down
     
  19. moosemoose

    moosemoose Member

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    thats a good plan

    lets all drop an insane dose and log in at the same time
     
  20. Shapeshifter

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    I have to disagree with your first part. I didn't take it more than a year but I still shine like it was last night. Depends really how deep down the rabbit hole you go. It changed me forever and even if I didn't take it for that long, it is still with me in every day to day life, I am using what I learned through acid and trying to become better person every single day. And that is basicaly all it is - to become better person today that you were yesterday, to try to love today somebody you hated yesterday.

    Considering second part of your post - I agree, take more acid, take it today, as much as you can, because tomorrow you might not have a chance!
    Peace and love!!!
     

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